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[Jedidiah]

Plenty of countries with even more liberal programs than ours have less poverty and less crime. Try again.

It is not the existence of help for those in need. It is the actual results of the actions by liberals in this nation.

[Psychic Missile]

There is less crime in other areas of this country too, like the poor in appalachia which I already mentioned. The difference in the inner city is all of the social programs being concentrated in one area. While you might have welfare in appalachia, you don't typically have the government concentrating people in slums, for example.

The inner city slums are a direct result of social programs by our government. They concentrate poor people in a small area, give them welfare to make them not work and have a lot of free time on their hands, give them affirmative action programs to make them feel entitled to special treatment, while being surrounded and bombarded by all the nice stuff they can't afford, and so what do they do? They decide they deserve that stuff, so they steal from their neighbors or sell them drugs to get enough money to get the things they can't afford.

Of course the poor in Appalachia experience less crime. It's easier to commit a crime and there is more opportunity for criminal behavior in a densely populated area. You've even been emphasizing that factor.

Your characterization of welfare recipients isn't supported by the facts. 73% of the families receiving welfare have at least someone working.* Also, affirmative action isn't special treatment, it was designed to correct a societal bias.

*Page 5, Table 2

[Psychic Missile]

It is not the existence of help for those in need. It is the actual results of the actions by liberals in this nation.

Could you elaborate?

[Bill the Cat]

Granted their poverty problem is different from ours, but your link gives the rate as 14% as of 2013, while the US poverty rate is 13.5% as of 2015.

Source: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/93583589/Unicef-report-New-Zealand-34th-out-of-41-developed-countries-for-child-wellbeing

Poverty
New Zealand was not ranked against the goal of ending poverty as it only provided data in one of three indicators*used in the report.
That was relative income poverty, with 19.8 per cent of Kiwi children living in a household with an income lower the 60 per cent of the median. Slightly better than the average of 21 per cent.
However, the report's authors were critical of New Zealand's measurement of*poverty.
Saying, "multidimensional poverty" should be measured as the per cent of children being*deprived of only two or more material indicators, while the New Zealand Government now defines it as being deprived of seven.*
"New Zealand is clearly capable of reporting against Innocenti's*measures for multidimensional poverty, but hasn't, and has instead broadened the definitive lines of measurement for multidimensional poverty when reporting internally to New Zealand audiences."

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[lilpixieofterror]

Of course the poor in Appalachia experience less crime. It's easier to commit a crime and there is more opportunity for criminal behavior in a densely populated area. You've even been emphasizing that factor.

Your characterization of welfare recipients isn't supported by the facts. 73% of the families receiving welfare have at least someone working.* Also, affirmative action isn't special treatment, it was designed to correct a societal bias.

*Page 5, Table 2

You know, I do enjoy how you act as though those living in inner cities have no choice, but to be criminals. Are you saying they are uncontrollable animals that are incapable of controlling themselves? In reality I've lived in small towns and cities and know you're full of it. It's not uncommon for doors to be unlocked and stuff to be left out in the yard without fear of theft in a smaller town. Can I do the same thing in a city? If anything it's pretty easy to steal in such open places, but it almost never happens. Sorry, but it has noting to do with opportunities because if anything, it might be easier in a small town vs a large city. Again, being poor is no excuse for criminal behavior.

[Sparko]

Of course the poor in Appalachia experience less crime. It's easier to commit a crime and there is more opportunity for criminal behavior in a densely populated area. You've even been emphasizing that factor.

Your characterization of welfare recipients isn't supported by the facts. 73% of the families receiving welfare have at least someone working.* Also, affirmative action isn't special treatment, it was designed to correct a societal bias.

*Page 5, Table 2

Affirmative action should have been stopped by now. it was OK once upon a time but there is no point of it today other than special treatment.

You should watch this video, an interview of Larry Elder, a black man, who discusses whether there is systemic racism in the US today. He also touches on affirmative action.

https://www.facebook.com/Conservativ...0355643663013/

It is about 8 minutes long and worth it.

[One Bad Pig]

Affirmative action should have been stopped by now. it was OK once upon a time but there is no point of it today other than special treatment.

You should watch this video, an interview of Larry Elder, a black man, who discusses whether there is systemic racism in the US today. He also touches on affirmative action.

https://www.facebook.com/Conservativ...0355643663013/

It is about 8 minutes long and worth it.

Larry Elder is one of my favorite columnists.

[Sparko]

Larry Elder is one of my favorite columnists.

Thanks, now PM won't watch it for sure.

[rogue06]

Wouldn't the "much more discrimination" and "actually had to fear being lynched" be a reason for them to have a lower crime rate? If you could get lynched for stepping out of line, I'd expect you'd want to work really hard to not step out of line.

This logic implies that blacks are naturally violent and prone to criminal activity and it is only through being harshly repressed that they can be forced to keep their nature in check

[rogue06]

Right, we've got to bring back lynching, that should take care of those uppity blacks.

For a brain dead twit such as yourself that would appear to be the natural conclusion.

[rogue06]

Can you get any stupider? My God, how do you remember to breathe? Where's that head pounding the desk kid Rogue posts?

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[rogue06]

I'm sorta impressed that you managed to somehow get that interpretation out of rogue's post.

I'm frequently impressed that he's capable of operating a key board.

[rogue06]

Plenty of countries with even more liberal programs than ours have less poverty and less crime. Try again.

Are their programs designed to destroy the family structure like ours do? Do they have a culture that celebrates random violence and misogyny (listen to American rap music for a continuous stream of it)?

[One Bad Pig]

I'm frequently impressed that he's capable of operating a key board.

Maybe he has a servant type it in for him.

[Sparko]

Maybe he has a servant type it in for him.

"hey Siri, post an idiotic liberal rant for me"