How long can Netanyahu survive in power?

[Cow Poke]

I love the fact that when OCT 7th came out and Hamas committed war crimes, your response was that people shouldn't be committed to a "goodie vs baddie" narrative. The reality is that YOU are committed to one, just the polar opposite of those who condemned the war crimes saw on Oct 7th. You never give "context" to posts like this (like you do when Hamas committed war crimes), you don't talk about anything that the (in your narrative) "goodies" did bad that may have cause the bad actions, nothing.

Bad Actions against israel need downplaying and contextualization.
Bad Actions by israel need simple statement of fact lacking anything.

Or, perhaps, you have invested time investigating that complexity and we just missed it.

It's complicated.

[CivilDiscourse]

It's complicated.

"It's complicated" when it's coming from us. It can be as simplistic as she wants when it's coming from her.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I love the fact that when OCT 7th came out and Hamas committed war crimes, your response was that people shouldn't be committed to a "goodie vs baddie" narrative. The reality is that YOU are committed to one, just the polar opposite of those who condemned the war crimes saw on Oct 7th. You never give "context" to posts like this (like you do when Hamas committed war crimes), you don't talk about anything that the (in your narrative) "goodies" did bad that may have cause the bad actions, nothing.

Bad Actions against israel need downplaying and contextualization.
Bad Actions by israel need simple statement of fact lacking anything.

Or, perhaps, you have invested time investigating that complexity and we just missed it.

Tell me where precisely lies the ethical difference between Jewish settlers using their legal processes to evict Palestinians from their homes, and the Nazis using their legal processes to evict Jews from theirs?

[CivilDiscourse]

Tell me where precisely lies the ethical difference between Jewish settlers using their legal processes to evict Palestinians from their homes, and the Nazis using their legal processes to evict Jews from theirs?

You reinforce my comments about you wanting simplistic goodie and baddie scenarios.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You reinforce my comments about you wanting simplistic goodie and baddie scenarios.

I ask again, where is the ethical difference?

[CivilDiscourse]

I ask again, where is the ethical difference?

You seem to want a childish goodie and baddie narrative.

[Roy]

You're right, Israel can refrain from retaliation because children might get hurt - which means Hamas can then do whatever it wants with complete impunity.


Find me a living Gaza journalist willing to provide content unaligned with Hamas.

This BBC reporter.

[Roy]

The defense of their country and the need to make it clear that this need never happen again.

That would obligate a response - but not necessarily the one Israel has chosen.

Whether or not that is 'right' is beside the point - Hamas KNEW it would happen.

Even if Hamas did anticipate the current level of response - which I don't think is as certain as you seem to - that doesn't mean Israel is obligated to meet their anticipations. Israel definitely isn't obligated to bomb the houses of journalists' relatives.

[Cow Poke]

That would obligate a response - but not necessarily the one Israel has chosen.

Yeah, they don't allow me to be in charge of that anymore.

Even if Hamas did anticipate the current level of response - which I don't think is as certain as you seem to

PLEASE tell me that you're not using the "but they're too stupid" rationale!

- that doesn't mean Israel is obligated to meet their anticipations.

Never said any such thing, Roy - it's called "history". Have you paid attention to the history of Israel in battle?

Israel definitely isn't obligated to bomb the houses of journalists' relatives.

Might I ask where you got that information, please?

[Cow Poke]

"It's complicated" when it's coming from us. It can be as simplistic as she wants when it's coming from her.

PLEASE tell me she's not exhibiting a double standard!!!

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You seem to want a childish goodie and baddie narrative.

On the contrary I am asking you to explain the ethical difference. Something you seem reluctant to do.

[CivilDiscourse]

On the contrary I am asking you to explain the ethical difference. Something you seem reluctant to do.

It is much too complex a situation for your love of simple answers.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

It is much too complex a situation for your love of simple answers.

You are welcome to explain why you consider it to be such a complex issue.

[Sparko]

Oh please don't pretend about what you have meant.
We've all had the chance to read how your God supports the killing of everybody in a land and then for the aggressors to move on to it. So much for your God
And by the way, is that what your God Jesus would do?


Nobody here supports Hamas, this is just your extremist mind playing games with you.



You've been told and told again that all the younger people in Gaza have never voted in any election.

It seems you are only interested in creating straw men to burn not in having a civil discussion.

You know eider, I actually like you as a person, you seem friendly and intelligent, and we get along fine in non-political threads, but once we start discussing politics or religion, you turn nasty and start insulting me (and others), creating imaginary positions that you claim I hold so you can fight against, and generally act like a big poopie head. Why? Why can't you just discuss things civilly?

[Cow Poke]

You are welcome to explain why you consider it to be such a complex issue.

It's complicated.