German Politician Fined For Telling The Truth..

[CivilDiscourse]

Do you think the calls to hang Mike Pence would have led to him being strung up?

You are distracting from your own hypocrisy again.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You are distracting from your own hypocrisy again.

If you think a few students who called for some senior administrators to be guillotined were likely to carry out that chant, do you also think that Mike Pence was likely to be hanged?

[seer]

You do not see any correlation between speech and action. You do not blame the rabble rouser if someone acts on their words.

So should the protestors here in the US face arrest for their anti antisemitic rants?

[seer]

If you think a few students who called for some senior administrators to be guillotined were likely to carry out that chant, do you also think that Mike Pence was likely to be hanged?

Was Marie-Thérèse Kaiser going to go out and harm any Muslims?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

So should the protestors here in the US face arrest for their anti antisemitic rants?

The protesters are not politicians giving their comments in their political capacity.

Was Marie-Thérèse Kaiser going to go out and harm any Muslims?

To use your own term, "dolt" did you not read the link I gave?

[seer]

The protesters are not politicians giving their comments in their political capacity.

So? Are there two standards for speech? How about Biden calling MAGA voters Fascists?

To use your own term, "dolt" did you not read the link I gave?

The link in German? But again, was Marie-Thérèse Kaiser going to go out and harm any Muslims?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

So? Are there two standards for speech? How about Biden calling MAGA voters Fascists?

According to you that is his prerogative just as Hitler's post 1933 speeches were his.

The link in German?

That was the link you provided

But again, was Marie-Thérèse Kaiser going to go out and harm any Muslims?

Stoic has dealt with all that. And Ms Kaiser is on the right of a RW party that has links with neo-Nazis which are closer than the party would like to pretend.

Ms Kaiser and the AfD are little different from the Nazis in the 1920s and early 1930s in wanting certain people/groups removed from German society. If you consider such views to be acceptable then you are siding with those who have the same views as the Nazis when it comes to certain groups within German society.

[CivilDiscourse]

According to you that is his prerogative just as Hitler's post 1933 speeches were his.



That was the link you provided


Stoic has dealt with all that. And Ms Kaiser is on the right of a RW party that has links with neo-Nazis which are closer than the party would like to pretend.

Ms Kaiser and the AfD are little different from the Nazis in the 1920s and early 1930s in wanting certain people/groups removed from German society. If you consider such views to be acceptable then you are siding with those who have the same views as the Nazis when it comes to certain groups within German society.

There's an old saying WRT to free speech. "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it"

[seer]

According to you that is his prerogative just as Hitler's post 1933 speeches were his.

And what is your point, if you think Kaiser should face some kind punishment (because she is a politician) why not Biden?

Stoic has dealt with all that. And Ms Kaiser is on the right of a RW party that has links with neo-Nazis which are closer than the party would like to pretend.

Ms Kaiser and the AfD are little different from the Nazis in the 1920s and early 1930s in wanting certain people/groups removed from German society. If you consider such views to be acceptable then you are siding with those who have the same views as the Nazis when it comes to certain groups within German society.

That is not the point - It is about Kaiser's ability to speak her mind without your fascist government coming down on her.

[seer]

There's an old saying WRT to free speech. "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it"

That only applies to leftists like HA if she agrees with the speech. Calling for the cutting off of heads is just fine...

[Stoic]

Of course, but it seems that the German government has no problem demonizing right wing or conservative groups.

In what way?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

And what is your point, if you think Kaiser should face some kind punishment (because she is a politician) why not Biden?

She was inciting hatred of a particular group of refugees. Biden has not implied that all MAGA members are rapists.

And it is evident that there exists among some members of MAGA a fascist tendency. The slogan itself has echoes of 1920s and 1930s fascism. Germany was going to made great again by Hitler. Mussolini was going to make Italy the new Rome. The devotion to the cult of the leader also is found among some MAGA members and that cult is encouraged by the leadership, e.g. the selling of pieces of the suit worn by Trump, Trump approved Bibles and sneakers. That same cultish attitude was encouraged in Italy and Germany. Hitler was regarded as a messianic leader in some quarters. In fascism the leader claims that he is the only one who can save the country and is bound by destiny to do so. Donald Trump: "I alone can fix it" and "I am your voice". Hitler promised the same for Germany and proclaimed; Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer.

That is not the point - It is about Kaiser's ability to speak her mind without your fascist government coming down on her.

You seem to hold the view that anyone can say anything without being held responsible for any repercussions. That is a very childish view and if tolerated would lead to social chaos.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

There's an old saying WRT to free speech. "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it"

The attribution to Voltaire actually came from a biographer. And he was actually referring to a philosophical text that had been condemned and burned by the authorities.

Again, the childish notion that anyone can say anything they like without any repercussions would lead to social chaos.

[CivilDiscourse]

The attribution to Voltaire actually came from a biographer. And he was actually referring to a philosophical text that had been condemned and burned by the authorities.
Again, the childish notion that anyone can say anything they like without any repercussions would lead to social chaos.

Your comment on Voltaire is irrelevant.

Your comment about repercussions is vague and authoritarian.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Your comment on Voltaire is irrelevant.

Your comment about repercussions is vague and authoritarian.

A comment on Voltaire is "irrelevant" even though you offered a paraphrase of a comment that is attributed to him.

Imagine the scenarios that would ensue from completely uncontrolled and unlimited "free speech".