BOMBSHELL: FBI Staged Fake Photo of Classified Documents for PR Purposes

[Mountain Man]

... judge Cannon who has been doing everything she is told to do in order to postpone the trial until after the election in order to protect her masters chances in that election.

Of course you wouldn't make such an accusation without good evidence to back it up, right? Right?

[JimL]

You forgot to add the word "treason".

You're already totally aware of Trumps treason anyway. Apparently you're just right there with him!

[Stoic]

Main document is here and attachments are here.

Thanks, but I meant the recent filing, where the government (allegedly) admits that it stated falsely that some of the documents were found with cover sheets attached.

Certain of the documents had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status. See, e.g., Attachment F (redacted FBI photograph of certain documents and classified cover sheets recovered from a container in the “45 office”).

[Sam]

Thanks, but I meant the recent filing, where the government (allegedly) admits that it stated falsely that some of the documents were found with cover sheets attached.

Certain of the documents had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status. See, e.g., Attachment F (redacted FBI photograph of certain documents and classified cover sheets recovered from a container in the “45 office”).

My apologies for the misunderstanding. I understand what you're saying now and I think you're right that the recent government filing does not explicitly say that these cover sheets aren't original. I had assumed they weren't under the idea that the empty classification folders were the appropriate method of covering the documents but if people with some expertise in the matter here say that's not the case, I think your question is pertinent.

The filing does say that the recovery team brought cover sheets and that those cover sheets were used as placeholders for classified documents as they were removed. I think it's reasonable to assume that the FBI's cover sheets are the paperclipped ones in the photo but I do not believe the government's filing explicitly states as much.

-Sam

[Sam]

No matter how you try to spin it, Sam, the fact is, Judge Cannon considers the prosecution's misconduct to be serious enough to indefinitely suspend the trial while she double checks their work. One legal analyst opined that this additional scrutiny is guaranteed to give Jack Smith some sleepless nights.

As already cited, that's not the reason Cannon provided for officially delaying the trial date, which was not expected to begin on May 20 with the numerous pre-trial issues still left standing.

-Sam

[Stoic]

My apologies for the misunderstanding. I understand what you're saying now and I think you're right that the recent government filing does not explicitly say that these cover sheets aren't original. I had assumed they weren't under the idea that the empty classification folders were the appropriate method of covering the documents but if people with some expertise in the matter here say that's not the case, I think your question is pertinent.

The filing does say that the recovery team brought cover sheets and that those cover sheets were used as placeholders for classified documents as they were removed. I think it's reasonable to assume that the FBI's cover sheets are the paperclipped ones in the photo but I do not believe the government's filing explicitly states as much.

Again, thanks for the link.

Without evidence to the contrary, I would tend to believe the FBI's original statement that the cover sheets shown in the photo were already with the documents when they were found (whether attached or not). There would be no reason to put the documents into folders, since the cover sheets prevent any classified information from being visible.

[Mountain Man]

As already cited, that's not the reason Cannon provided for officially delaying the trial date, which was not expected to begin on May 20 with the numerous pre-trial issues still left standing.

-Sam

You're right, Jack Smith has nothing to worry about.

[Stoic]

You're right, Jack Smith has nothing to worry about.

Well, he mainly has to worry about Cannon waiting until after jeopardy attaches, and then dismissing the case.

I don't think he has to worry about the trial being put off until after the election. That ship has sailed.

[Cow Poke]

As already cited, that's not the reason Cannon provided for officially delaying the trial date, which was not expected to begin on May 20 with the numerous pre-trial issues still left standing.

-Sam

CNN

Cannon noted in her Tuesday order that there are eight substantive pending motions she has yet to decide. She also reiterated that she believes the national security mishandling allegations in the case “present novel and difficult questions.”

[Cow Poke]

You're already totally aware of Trumps treason anyway.

A) It would be Trump's, not Trumps -- possessive vs. plural. We've been working on this, Jim.
2) I am not aware of treason on Trump's part, so that would be an outright lie.

Apparently you're just right there with him!

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[Mountain Man]

Well, he mainly has to worry about Cannon waiting until after jeopardy attaches, and then dismissing the case.

I don't think he has to worry about the trial being put off until after the election. That ship has sailed.

He also has to be concerned about more of the prosecution's underhanded dealings being exposed, such as recent revelations that the National Archives and FBI were coordinating with the White House with direct orders from Joe himself to target President Trump. That is by far the biggest danger Smith faces with Cannon slowing things down.

[JimL]

A) It would be Trump's, not Trumps -- possessive vs. plural. We've been working on this, Jim.
2) I am not aware of treason on Trump's part, so that would be an outright lie.



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A) It would be Trump's, not Trumps -- possessive vs. plural. We've been working on this, Jim.
2) I am not aware of treason on Trump's part, so that would be an outright lie.



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A) It would be Trump's, not Trumps -- possessive vs. plural. We've been working on this, Jim.
2) I am not aware of treason on Trump's part, so that would be an outright lie.

Sure you are, you're fully aware of the treason, either that or you're a complete ignoramus. You're not a complete ignoramus are you? Or is it that you just don't consider that trying to overthrow an election, democracy, the will of the people, the elected government of the U.S. and the incitement of an insurrection along with aiding and comforting the convicted insurrectionists and ending for the first time in American history the "peaceful transfer of power," treason?

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Nope, I'm right, and you know it.

[Sam]

CNN

Cannon noted in her Tuesday order that there are eight substantive pending motions she has yet to decide. She also reiterated that she believes the national security mishandling allegations in the case “present novel and difficult questions.”

If you look up the order, that's not what she wrote:

Source: Case 9:23-cr-80101-AMC Document 530 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/07/2024. pp. 4-5

Time under the Speedy Trial Act is therefore tolled—up to and including July 22, 2024—to permit adequate time for hearings and adjudication of substantive pretrial motions, discovery disputes, and CIPA issues, many of which present novel and difficult questions. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(D), (h)(7)(A)-(B) (directing judicial consideration of the needs of the proceeding, the complexity or unusual nature of the case, the need for adequate preparation for pretrial and trial proceedings, and the need to afford adequate time for effective preparation, accounting for the exercise of due diligence); [see also ECF Nos. 83, 154; ECF No. 215 p. 3].

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Emphasis added. Cannon didn't write that she was delaying the trial over concern about the government's behavior, though that might be one of the "disputes" referenced, nor did she write that those allegations present novel and difficult questions: "many of" the outstanding issues that Cannon hasn't resolved, she writes, "present novel and difficult questions".

It's a quote-mined bit and a hasty (or cynically opportunistic) conclusion. Read the order and the claim doesn't stand up.

-Sam

[Cow Poke]

If you look up the order, that's not what she wrote:

Source: Case 9:23-cr-80101-AMC Document 530 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/07/2024. pp. 4-5

Time under the Speedy Trial Act is therefore tolled—up to and including July 22, 2024—to permit adequate time for hearings and adjudication of substantive pretrial motions, discovery disputes, and CIPA issues, many of which present novel and difficult questions. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(D), (h)(7)(A)-(B) (directing judicial consideration of the needs of the proceeding, the complexity or unusual nature of the case, the need for adequate preparation for pretrial and trial proceedings, and the need to afford adequate time for effective preparation, accounting for the exercise of due diligence); [see also ECF Nos. 83, 154; ECF No. 215 p. 3].

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Emphasis added. Cannon didn't write that she was delaying the trial over concern about the government's behavior, though that might be one of the "disputes" referenced, nor did she write that those allegations present novel and difficult questions: "many of" the outstanding issues that Cannon hasn't resolved, she writes, "present novel and difficult questions".

It's a quote-mined bit and a hasty (or cynically opportunistic) conclusion. Read the order and the claim doesn't stand up.

-Sam

So, CNN lied?

Sam, there is often "what is written formally", and things that are said about that in interviews.

[Cow Poke]

Nope, I'm right, and you know it.

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