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I did for basically the first 37 years of my life.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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And? (This is where a little more than a few couple of lines would actually be interesting, seer...) And, yes, I know you are a Christian, but how and why did the change come about?Originally posted by seer View PostComment
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For you, heaven would be hell... To quote CS Lewis, the doors of hell are locked from the inside...Originally posted by Charles View PostAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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I really don't want to get into it, just let me say it was very powerful encounter...Originally posted by Charles View PostAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Since 'default positions' require a priori assumptions, this whole point fails - only an idiot chooses a fallacious argument.Originally posted by Roy View Post"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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And for us, hell would be heaven?Originally posted by seer View Post
"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAnd for us, hell would be heaven?
I know you're being facetious and I don't want to pick a fight, but this is not funny, not funny at all. Hell is where God absents Himself - if all goodness comes from God as Christians believe, hell is unimaginably dark, empty and evil. There's nothing 'good' about hell - can't be by definition. Ending up there is the absolute worst thing that can happen - even if you believe in annhilationism.
It's not a fate anyone should wish on ANYONE - and I do mean anyone - and it's nothing any of us would want to see happen to you.
This is why we proclaim the Gospel - the negative side, anyway. I don't think hellfire and brimstone is particularly effective evangelically speaking (defining effective in statistical terms) but that doesn't make hell any the less real or any the less terrifying.
The positive side is that Jesus died in your place out of love for you. This is the way most of us proclaim the Gospel and is the most effective mode. But when you stop talking statistics and start talking to human hearts, all that matters is they hear what they need to hear when they can accept it.
Sorry, the long explanation seemed in order. Suffice it, it's really not funny."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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I think C.S. Lewis was wrong in his famous quote about hell (as well as his implication in The Great Divorce that people could simply make the move to heaven if they wanted to). Jesus was pretty clear in his parables as well as in Matthew 7:20-21 that there would be those who would want to enter heaven but be denied."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard RavenhillComment
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Um, I've never taken the 'locked from the inside' thing to imply that the occupants could chose to open the door. It's more the 'living our lives in chains and never even knowing we have the key' (apologies to the Eagles) only with the worse knowledge that we had the key but refused to use it when we could.Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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What? That definition still make no sense in the context of our discussion. Who decides what the default position is then? You are just grasping for straws Tass...
default: an option that is selected automatically unless an alternative is specified.
By definition you are wrong...
How do you know that?He doesn't exist.Last edited by seer; 08-11-2017, 06:14 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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I guess, if you keep on this path, you will find out Star...Originally posted by Starlight View PostAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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