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  • #76
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Once again H_A white knights for a sexual predator.

    This is becoming a pattern.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

      Perhaps you should be more precise in your words.
      I was. That is why I chose to employ understatement.


      Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

      The same drug is used in both. I find it odd people would concern themselves with convicted individuals and not minors. Also, as usual, in America does something, it's barbaric while if Europe does it, it's progressive.
      Please put the hobbyhorse back into the nursery toy cupboard.

      Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

      You are the one who brought humans being animals.
      Are you denying the fact that we are animals?

      Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
      Given that humans are a social animal, especially in regard to mating, that's unlikely to work well (unless you think single motherhood works well).
      You appear to be assuming that society must remain in the present state in which we generally find it in western societies.

      Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

      You seemed ignorant as to the aggression of chimps.
      Your assumption was incorrect..

      Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

      I take it also you don't known how orcas play with their food by tossing it into the air while the food is alive.
      Why would you assume that?

      However, it should be noted that many domestic cats do the same.

      "It ain't necessarily so
      The things that you're liable
      To read in the Bible
      It ain't necessarily so
      ."

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        By using the plural of "children" it makes his already abhorrent behaviour appear even worse to the reader.

        It is a method by which an intensified emotional response may be elicited. To wit, not only did he abuse one fourteen year old by raping her on multiple occasions, grooming her, and intimidating both her and her family, the subtle inference is suggested that he did this to more than one victim.
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

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        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • #79
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Once again H_A white knights for a sexual predator.

          This is becoming a pattern.
          See above.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

            By using the plural of "children" it makes his already abhorrent behaviour appear even worse to the reader.
            Not everything translates "clean", H_A --- you're forcing a literal interpretation on a common way of saying things. So, no.

            It is a method by which an intensified emotional response may be elicited. To wit, not only did he abuse one fourteen year old by raping her on multiple occasions, grooming her, and intimidating both her and her family, the subtle inference is suggested that he did this to more than one victim.
            No, ma'am. We have ways of saying things that are commonly understood by others in this country that may be a bit confusing to outsiders.

            If somebody purposely stepped on a puppy to kill or do injury, it would be acceptable to say "he steps on puppies" as a general comment, even though it may be only that one.
            The implication is, of course, that if he is bad enough to do that one time, he could well do others.

            Same with this pervert. He threated violence on the victim and her family if they talked, so it's entirely reasonable to assume there MAY be other victims.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              As if this were the only time you sought to defend a sexual assailant by declaring his sexually assaulting someone isn't technically pedophilia but rather it is "merely" hebephilia.
              As you have clearly not read my posts on this thread, let me provide you with a comment I made on page one at post fourteen.

              That the crime is horrendous is not in doubt but the punishment is rather "medieval" even with the consent of the defendant.



              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              That is the purpose of, and justification for the procedure. Do you really need for someone to tell you that before you can comprehend it?
              I ask again, where did you read that?

              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post


              I won't ever be in his position so I will never be forced to make such a decision, but I can understand why he might make that choice.
              That is a relief.

              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Can you please show where I did anything like that? Personally, I'd be happy if that were also an option.
              I cited my comment to Diogenes to make you understand I am not interested in your views on why this is deemed an ethical punishment. However, it obviously fell on stony ground.


              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Only took a hand full of law classes. Some of the most interesting classes that I ever took. Most of the other students were in law enforcement seeking promotions.
              I was being sarcastic as I thought you would next be telling me that while being Rambo's younger brother in the jungle you also acted as another Perry Mason.

              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Have any shown that they prevent recidivism? If not, then they're effectively useless.
              As I pointed out being chemically or physically castrated and released back into society does not prevent the risk of certain individuals repeating aspects of their previous behaviours,
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • #82
                Bottom line - this brutal rapist admitted guilt and chose surgical castration.

                Too bad H_A wasn't there to serve as legal counsel to advise and defend him.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  Not everything translates "clean", H_A --- you're forcing a literal interpretation on a common way of saying things. So, no.
                  I am responding to the misuse of the term when as far as we are all aware, unless you have other information, this crime was perpetrated against one young teen and her family.


                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  No, ma'am. We have ways of saying things that are commonly understood by others in this country that may be a bit confusing to outsiders.
                  I would suggest that you all respond precisely as intended.

                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  If somebody purposely stepped on a puppy to kill or do injury, it would be acceptable to say "he steps on puppies" as a general comment, even though it may be only that one.
                  The implication is, of course, that if he is bad enough to do that one time, he could well do others.
                  You have sex with your wife i.e. one partner in what I presume has been a long and happy marriage.

                  What inference would be construed if your family, or friends, when referring to that union made the observation that "CowPoke, Dad, Grandpa has sex with women"? After all, theoretically, you could quite easily have had more than one sexual partner, as indeed could your good lady wife. Does "Mrs Cow Poke, Grandma, Mum has sex with men" seem acceptable to you?

                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Same with this pervert. He threated violence on the victim and her family if they talked, so it's entirely reasonable to assume there MAY be other victims.
                  Pending any more victims coming forward that is entirely your speculation.

                  On the other hand, our friend stated Sullivan's abuse of children as fact.

                  A man who raped children.
                  Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 05-05-2024, 08:14 AM.
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Bottom line - this brutal rapist admitted guilt and chose surgical castration.

                    Too bad H_A wasn't there to serve as legal counsel to advise and defend him.
                    And to my way of thinking having a law that incorporates such a punishment, is inhumane, barbarous, and "medieval".

                    However, it is So much cheaper than therapy with a psychiatrist whose specialism is these offenders.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                      I am responding to the misuse of the term when as far as we are all aware, unless you have other information, this crime was perpetrated against one young teen and her family.
                      It may be a misuse in your country, but here, where it was spoken (typed), it is a totally acceptable usage.

                      I would suggest that you all respond precisely as intended.
                      Yeah, our whole country isn't going to change the way we talk (type) because some crazy German cat lady can't grasp simple concepts.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                        And to my way of thinking having a law that incorporates such a punishment, is inhumane, barbarous, and "medieval".
                        Whoever knew that you, of all people, would be a prude.

                        However, it is So much cheaper than therapy with a psychiatrist whose specialism is these offenders.
                        Perhaps we should send the pervert to your house where you can work with him.

                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          It may be a misuse in your country, but here, where it was spoken (typed), it is a totally acceptable usage.



                          Yeah, our whole country isn't going to change the way we talk (type) because some crazy German cat lady can't grasp simple concepts.
                          I amended my post to include a version of the following observation

                          I therefore assume that you would have no issues if your family or friends, when describing your good lady wife noted "Mrs Cow Poke, Grandma, Mum has sex with men".

                          As everyone would automatically know precisely what was intended.
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            Whoever knew that you, of all people, would be a prude.
                            What has any alleged prudery to do with my position on this?



                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                              I amended my post to include a version of the following observation
                              I can hardly wait.

                              I therefore assume that you would have no issues if your family or friends, when describing your good lady wife noted "Mrs Cow Poke, Grandma, Mum has sex with men".
                              Wow --- a man having sex with his wife is a normal and healthy part of the relationship, so I can't imagine anybody crazy enough to try that. Except you, of course.
                              None of my family or friends are that nutty.

                              As everyone would automatically know precisely what was intended.
                              Lemme type very slowly and maybe you can read it several times....

                              When somebody does something sick or disgusting, it is 'fair game' to use that manner of intended insult - "he has sex with children" (even if there were only one).
                              Only a pervert would try to apply that same rationale to somebody doing something totally acceptable.

                              Now, please feel free to wallow in your profound ignorance on this matter - I'm done.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                                I can hardly wait.



                                Wow --- a man having sex with his wife is a normal and healthy part of the relationship, so I can't imagine anybody crazy enough to try that. Except you, of course.
                                You wrote:


                                If somebody purposely stepped on a puppy to kill or do injury, it would be acceptable to say "he steps on puppies" as a general comment, even though it may be only that one.


                                Hence my observations were to do with the use of a plural "children" when the facts only pertain to the singular, "child". In other words our friend is guilty of over-extending his comment.

                                Therefore, while you have had a normal and healthy sexual relationship with only one partner, that is, your good lady wife, you would not, I assume, wish to have people commenting that you had sex with women. Or indeed that your wife had sex with men
                                Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 05-05-2024, 08:59 AM.
                                "It ain't necessarily so
                                The things that you're liable
                                To read in the Bible
                                It ain't necessarily so
                                ."

                                Sportin' Life
                                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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