Tough Week for Family Values Party

[Gondwanaland]

Good point.

I’m still waiting on Republicans to blast PragerU’s patronizing and error-filled “A Short History of a Slavery.”

Got some examples?

[tabibito]

Got some examples?

It is intended as a potted history, not a detailed analysis. Aside from a couple of points that can be considered hyperbole, it provides a good overview of slavery in general through history. Error ridden? Not in so far as I can see.

[whag]

Got some examples?

I’m making a transcript so I can do a point-by-point.

[Chaotic Void]

Why would we blast him instead of just disagreeing with his highly Jewish view of lust? He's wrong in the interpretation of viewing pornography not being lustful, but his view isn't worth "blasting" him for it. Prager isn't my Pope. He can be wrong on viewing porn and still right on quite a number of other subjects.

If it was just, "Porn Isn't So Bad," I'd have just written him off as a RepubliCoomer and moved on. But the dude, when asked by the Pints With Aquinas host, straight up said Animated Cheese Pizza (if you've been on the internet for any time, you know EXACTLY what this is a euphemism for) was Not Evil because no real children were harmed. That's the kind of garbage I expect to hear from a Degenerate Weeb who's a mis-click away from getting put on the Sex Offender Registry, not aRight-Wing Figure that people seem to have a level of respect for.

I'm not accusing him of having a 200gb, "Tax Documents," folder of the stuff on his home computer, but is the worldview that promotes the mindset that doesn't believe that it's evil really something anyone should affiliate with... especially people who believe in family values?

Here's the link before I finish my Lunch Break. These are some hefty claims on my end, I had to watch it twice to make sure I wasn't hearing things.

Content Warning: They Don't Use The Euphemisms that I do, only click if you have the stomach.

https://youtu.be/DwEOIGPxRdw?feature=shared

[NorrinRadd]

I’m making a transcript so I can do a point-by-point.

Is that the one with Candace Owens, my favorite little white supremacist?

When you're done with that, maybe you'd like to debunk Thomas Sowell.

[tabibito]

Is that the one with Candace Owens, my favorite little white supremacist?

When you're done with that, maybe you'd like to debunk Thomas Sowell.

The only point that seems to be vulnerable would be the number of slaves taken to America. It is nothing like the total number for the Transatlantic slave trade to the Americas generally and elsewhere. Given that the video is directed primarily to the American audience, the relevant figures have been provided. A further omission arises with the failure to mention (directly and specifically) the East African slave trade, but also, that is not relevant to the Transatlantic slave trade.

[Sparko]

I’m making a transcript so I can do a point-by-point.

Here you go:

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And now for a brief history of slavery.

Here’s the first thing you need to know.

Slavery was not “invented” by white people.

It did not start in 1619 when the first slaves came to Jamestown.

It existed before then.

It did not start in 1492 when Columbus discovered the New World.

In fact, when the intrepid explorer landed in the Bahamas, the native Taino tribe hoped he could help them defeat their aggressive neighbors, the Caribs. The Caribs enslaved the Taino and, on occasion, served them for dinner.

Slavery existed in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

The word “slave” actually comes from the Slavs of Eastern Europe. Millions of them — all white by the way — were captured and enslaved by Muslims in the ninth century and later by the Ottoman Turks.

Slavery existed when the Roman Empire controlled the Mediterranean and most of Europe from the 1st through the 5th centuries.

Slavery existed when Alexander the Great conquered Persia in the 4th century BC. It was so common that Aristotle simply considered it “natural.” The slave/master model was just how the world operated in the great philosopher’s day.

Slavery existed during the time of the ancient Egyptians five thousand years ago.

As far back we can go in human history, we find slavery.

As renowned historian John Steele Gordon notes, from time immemorial, “slaves were a major item of commerce...As much as a third of the population of the ancient world was enslaved.”

Here’s the second thing you need to know.

White people were the first to formally put an end to slavery.

In 1833, Britain was the first country in the history of the world to pass a Slavery Abolition Act. They were quickly followed by France, who in 1848 abolished slavery in her many colonies. Then, of course, came the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. After centuries of human slavery, white men led the world in putting an end to the abhorrent practice.

That includes the 300,000 Union soldiers, overwhelmingly white, who died during the Civil War.

Am I saying that this makes white people better than anyone else?

Of course not.

My purpose here is to simply tell the truth, and the truth is that human history is complicated; no one, regardless of skin color, stands guiltless.

Yet today we are never told to consider the murderous Persian Empire or the cannibalism of indigenous tribes of North and South America, or the heinous actions under the imperialistic Muslim, Chinese, Mongol, or Japanese Empires, to name just a few.

Instead, we’re told that slavery is a white phenomenon.

Like all persistent lies, this lie spawns a bunch of other lies.

On social media I come across extraordinary depictions about how Africans lived liked pharaohs before Europeans came and laid waste to their paradise.

I wish any of this were true. But it’s not. It’s a fantasy.

The truth is that Africans were sold into slavery by other black Africans. And in many cases, sold for items as trivial as gin and mirrors.

Whites didn’t go into the interior and round up the natives. They waited on the coast for their black partners to bring them black bodies.

The stark reality is that our lives had very little value to our ancestors.

Here’s the third thing you need to know.

If you think slavery is a relic of the past, you’re wrong.

There are some 700,000 slaves in Africa today. Right now. That’s the lowest estimate I could find. Other sources say there are many more.

For context, that’s almost twice as many slaves as were ever brought to the United States. Child soldiers, human trafficking, forced labor—these are the conditions that currently exist within the same sub-Saharan region where the transatlantic slave trade originated.

African bodies are being sold today like they were sold then—and no, they are not being purchased by any country of white men. In fact, slavery, by any traditional definition, is exclusively practiced today within nonwhite countries.

But we hear almost nothing about this.

Just like we hear nothing about how slavery was universal until good people in Europe and America ended it two centuries ago.

Why?

Because our so-called “leaders” — black and white — wouldn’t profit from it. Black victimhood is nothing if not profitable. It elects politicians and funds racial grievance groups.

And if black Americans began to view themselves as partners in the American dream…

If we embraced the patriotic spirit that holds all men are created equal, the patriotic spirit that is our real heritage…

Then the race hustlers would soon be out of business.

And who wants that?

I’m Candace Owens, author of Blackout, for Prager University.

Video: https://www.prageru.com/video/a-shor...ory-of-slavery

[Roy]

Here you go:

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White people were the first to formally put an end to slavery.

In 1833, Britain was the first country in the history of the world to pass a Slavery Abolition Act. They were quickly followed by France, who in 1848 abolished slavery in her many colonies.

Well that's wrong, for a start.
The Chinese abolished slavery in 9AD (though it was reintroduced in 23AD following the assassination of the emperor who abolished it).
France abolished slavery in mainland France in 1315, and (after it was re-established) again in 1795.

[Sparko]

Well that's wrong, for a start.
The Chinese abolished slavery in 9AD (though it was reintroduced in 23AD following the assassination of the emperor who abolished it).
France abolished slavery in mainland France in 1315, and (after it was re-established) again in 1795.

Maybe they were considering ending slavery for good, and not re-establishing it? Or they were talking about chattel slavery of black people?

[Gondwanaland]

Well that's wrong, for a start.
The Chinese abolished slavery in 9AD (though it was reintroduced in 23AD following the assassination of the emperor who abolished it).
France abolished slavery in mainland France in 1315, and (after it was re-established) again in 1795.

Been a while but IIRC Wang Mang didn't really end slavery in 9AD he just changed things to a semi-feudal system where some farmers that had sold themselves into slavery received land and were able to be slaves to the state instead as peasants.

[rogue06]

Been a while but IIRC Wang Mang didn't really end slavery in 9AD he just changed things to a semi-feudal system where some farmers that had sold themselves into slavery received land and were able to be slaves to the state instead as peasants.

And it appeared he wasn't interested in giving people their liberty and freedom but rather wanted them on the Imperial tax roles so the government could collect money from them (apparently it wasn't uncommon for poor farmers to sell themselves into a form of slavery in order to avoid taxes).

[tabibito]

Well that's wrong, for a start.
The Chinese abolished slavery in 9AD (though it was reintroduced in 23AD following the assassination of the emperor who abolished it).
France abolished slavery in mainland France in 1315, and (after it was re-established) again in 1795.

So, neither can be said to have "put an end to slavery." China made a short lived and failed attempt to end slavery in an earlier time.
Louis X abolished slavery in the land of France but not in the colonies, nor even in its navy - or so my reading to date indicates.

[NorrinRadd]

Getting back to the SBC Pervert Database thing -- Apparently another swing and a miss. Article at The Roys Report.

Please move post elsewhere if it is deemed it merits a new thread.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Getting back to the SBC Pervert Database thing -- Apparently another swing and a miss. Article at The Roys Report.

Please move post elsewhere if it is deemed it merits a new thread.

A somewhat damning article on the SBC leadership dragging their collective feet.

[Cow Poke]

A somewhat damning article on the SBC leadership dragging their collective feet.

It's always amazing when I come home (back to the hotel) from a conference where I was in attendance the whole time, and read "what really happened" there.
It's like --- wow, how did I miss THAT?

I also saw a number of articles that made it sound like there was a lot of fighting and rancor - it was actually so calm it was almost boring.