Lt. Richard Collins III; murdered by Alt-Right terrorist...

[guacamole]

Right so you agree that men can be Christians and not always follow the teachings and example of Christ.

Of course. Including yours truly.

fwiw,
guacamole

[Meh Gerbil]

Alright, good point. Repudiate your crazies. Do you think that Westboro are actually Christians? I feel like I can repudiate their "tactics" (because I'm not sure about their statement of faith and everything they believe) while still acknowledging that they are Christians.

I agree that Islam has a problem with its extremists.

fwiw,
guacamole

I think it is safe to say that a cult defined by hatred isn't Christian.

[rogue06]

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[Meh Gerbil]

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That is because they were all hiding in their fallout shelters.
Most were singing hymns and watching the clouds.

[Mountain Man]

Mountain Man for the WIN! I absolutely agree with you--I'm not working on a spiritual-reality level here when I make the demarcation, as that's pretty impossible for me tell at this distance from their lives. I speaking on a more general taxonomic level of a person who, at least outwardly, adhere's to the orthodox demarcations of Christianity.

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:15-20)

[guacamole]

I think it is safe to say that a cult defined by hatred isn't Christian.

Here's their website:

Westboro Baptist Church

I'm trying to find a creedal statement. Anyone else can look too. I've been reading through the FAQ, and they seem 'orthodox.'

fwiw,
guacamole

Edited to add: They have a counter to count the number of people God has cast into hell since you've loaded the page.

[Meh Gerbil]

Here's their website:

Westboro Baptist Church

I'm trying to find a creedal statement. Anyone else can look too. I've been reading through the FAQ, and they seem 'orthodox.'

fwiw,
guacamole

Anyone can cut and paste a statement of faith to a website.
I think we're to evaluate people based upon their actions.

Their constant hatred runs afoul of "you shall know them by their love."

[guacamole]

Anyone can cut and paste a statement of faith to a website.
I think we're to evaluate people based upon their actions.

Their constant hatred runs afoul of "you shall know them by their love."

True. And Amen.

fwiw,
guacamole

[Mountain Man]

Then we have this:

"Leftists took to Twitter Monday night to tweet about their fears of Islamophobia following the terrorist attack at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England."

[rogue06]

Then we have this:

"Leftists took to Twitter Monday night to tweet about their fears of Islamophobia following the terrorist attack at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England."

Not just Twitter. I just posted this in the thread about the attack:

After ignoring the attack during their evening news broadcast ABC, what the network seemed most concerned about this morning is a possible "Anti-Islamic backlash" in Europe. On Good Morning America ABC anchor George Stephanopoulos resisted efforts to link the attack to Muslim extremists and went on several times worrying that this would "likely create backlash" and "likely to inflame anti-Islamic sentiment across Britain, across Europe."

The priorities of the leftist MSM

[seer]

Then we have this:

"Leftists took to Twitter Monday night to tweet about their fears of Islamophobia following the terrorist attack at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England."

This is why liberals are retarded, no I take that back - I worked with the mentally handicapped for a decade - they actually had more common sense than leftists...

[Meh Gerbil]

This is why liberals are retarded, no I take that back - I worked with the mentally handicapped for a decade - they actually had more common sense than leftists...

Given the frequency of this sort of thing the tolerance from the West has been pretty amazing.

[One Bad Pig]

I think a better course would be to repudiate your crazies in no uncertain terms. This is what Christians have been doing for quite awhile now. OTOH Muslims either tolerate theirs or fully embrace them.

The Muslims do repudiate their crazies.

It's just that, to the Muslims, the crazies are Ahmadiyya and Baha'i.

[Leonhard]

In general alt-right is seething is a strange focus on race, mirroring the radical left. Though apparently deciding to be the exact opposite mirror. While most alt-righters aren't explicitly white supremacists, some certainly are. You can go to www.stormfront.org to read about it.

Or heck look up any video of the coiner of the term 'alt-right', Richard Spencer and listen to him talk.

Honestly I can't tell if he genuinely is like this, or whether he's just larping.

Like it or not, the coiner of the term 'alt-right' said this following on his website until it was taken down, though its saved in the webarchive.

Source: Richard Spencer

Instead of asking how we can make reparations for slavery, colonialism, and Apartheid or how we can equalize academic scores and incomes, we should instead be asking questions like, "Does human civilization actually need the Black race?" "Is Black genocide right?" and, if it is, "What would be the best and easiest way to dispose of them?" With starting points like this, wisdom is sure to flourish, enlightenment to dawn.

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[Darth Executor]

I think it is safe to say that a cult defined by hatred isn't Christian.

I view Westboro Baptist Church as a moderate Christian group. Unlike many other Christians, they don't support drilling holes into unborn babies heads and sucking out their brains. I reckon that makes them a better option than at least 30% of self-identified Christians. As far as extremists go, they are mostly known for being really, really mean in person. They probably top the scale at being mean, and if you think being mean is worse than the massacres facilitated by the guacamoles of the world, I guess you would feel the need to vigorously denounce them. My position on them remains a resounding "meh".