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  • #16
    Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post


    Koller-Kotelly’s order cites a scholarly article written by Northwestern University Law School professor Andrew Koppelman in 1990, which states that, “when women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to ‘involuntary servitude’ in violation” of the 13th Amendment.



    Sound and robust reasoning to protect women’s right to control of their own bodies.
    Everybody has an inherent right to control their own body. What women are demanding is a special right to control the bodies of their unborn children.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

      Everybody has an inherent right to control their own body. What women are demanding is a special right to control the bodies of their unborn children.
      I can't wait for surgeons to just decide to let someone die in the OR because they don't want to be a slave to their patient's life.

      "I refuse to be a slave to someone else's life! I wanted to go get a coffee so I just left the OR. I can't help it if they died. It was my constitutional right!"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

        One of the charges brought against the defendant is that he is denying someone access to something protected by a Constitutional right. There is no such right. This judge is merely trying to re-create the imagined "right to privacy" based on a bastardization of the 13th.
        The statement "there is no such right" is exactly what is in question.

        But no matter how that question is answered, there is still (for now, anyway) a constitutional right to birth control.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Stoic View Post
          The statement "there is no such right" is exactly what is in question.

          But no matter how that question is answered, there is still (for now, anyway) a constitutional right to birth control.
          Abortion is not birth control.
          We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Stoic View Post
            The statement "there is no such right" is exactly what is in question.

            But no matter how that question is answered, there is still (for now, anyway) a constitutional right to birth control.
            Some of us are not inclined to accept "birth control" as a euphemism for murdering an innocent human life.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

              Everybody has an inherent right to control their own body. What women are demanding is a special right to control the bodies of their unborn children.
              They don’t have bodies, nor are they children.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dirttfloor View Post

                They don’t have bodies, nor are they children.
                Yes, the pro: abortion argument only works if you first dehumanize the unborn life.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post


                  Koller-Kotelly’s order cites a scholarly article written by Northwestern University Law School professor Andrew Koppelman in 1990, which states that, “when women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to ‘involuntary servitude’ in violation” of the 13th Amendment.



                  Sound and robust reasoning to protect women’s right to control of their own bodies.
                  Having to pay taxes violates the 13th Amendment as well.
                  P1) If , then I win.

                  P2)

                  C) I win.

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                  • #24
                    Speaking of involuntary servitude:

                    Alabama: No state snow removal law.

                    Alaska: The Alaska Landlord Tenant Act says that the landlord must remove snow and ice from common areas ( Coburn v. Burton, 790 P.2d 1355 (Alaska 1990).) The lease can require that a tenant is responsible for removing snow from private areas of the property.

                    Arizona: City ordinances about snow removal, like this one from Flagstaff, AZ where owners, lessees, or residents are required to remove snow from public walkways that border the property within 24-hours.

                    Arkansas: No statewide snow removal law. Owners may be liable if snow is cleared and an accident occurs.

                    California: The act of putting snow or other materials on a public right-of-way is a violation of CVC 23112 and Section 724 of the California Streets and Highways Code, and is a misdemeanor.

                    Colorado: The owners of buildings, stores, and any other public places are responsible for removing snow and ice to allow safe access to their property. They have an obligation to ensure areas accessible to the public is safe and free and clear of any dangerous accumulation of snow and ice.

                    Connecticut: Owner or resident is responsible for snow removal on adjacent public walkways and public gutters. If an accident does occur, the injured can seek damages for injury from the owner within 2 years of the accident. Some cities require the owner also salt or sand the sidewalk and provide timeframes for when snow removal must occur.

                    Delaware: The state assumes responsibility for clearing sidewalks along public roadways, however property owners in some towns and counties will still need to meet local requirements for removing snow.

                    Florida: No state snow removal law

                    Georgia: No state snow removal requirements. However, if anyone does shovel snow, it may not be placed in any public road, street, or walkway.

                    Hawaii: No state law.

                    Idaho: The owner of a building (home, business, church, etc) is to keep their sidewalks clear of snow every day (Boise City Code 9-08-07).

                    Illinois: Residents and property owners are encouraged to remove snow from sidewalks and public walkways. Anyone who removes snow shall not be held liable for injuries that occur as a result of snow or snow removal.

                    Indiana: Property owners and residents cannot remove snow and leave it in a public roadway. If a property owner or resident removes snow from a public walkway or path, he may be found liable if someone experiences an injury as a result of the snow removal. The city advises residents move the snow to your yard and not into the street, an alley or covering a fire hydrant.

                    Iowa: In Iowa City, residents must remove snow from sidewalks with 24-hours of one inch of snow falling. The entire width of the sidewalk must be cleared down to the concrete.

                    Kansas: In Wichita, KS property owners must shovel snow and ice from public sidewalks for face a fine and a misdemeanor.

                    Kentucky: Property owners are responsible for removing snow from walkways within 4 hours after daylight and after falling snow has ceased in Lexington, KY.

                    Louisiana: No state snow removal law.

                    Maine: Residents and residential property owners in Portland, MI have 12 hours to remove snow or ice after a storm has ended or when the City finishes snow removal operations, whichever is later. Failure to comply will result in the city performing the task and billing the owner for the cost of snow removal.

                    Maryland: Depending on the city, residents have 12-72 hours to remove snow from public sidewalks.

                    Massachusetts: Supreme Judicial Court ruled that property owners and landlords are responsible for every inch of snow and ice on their property.

                    Michigan: City ordinances in Michigan ensure that snow, as well as ice, is removed from sidewalks in order to reduce the likelihood of injuries to pedestrians.

                    Minnesota: City ordinances like this one in Montgomery, MN, state that all snow and ice must be removed within 24 hours from public sidewalks.

                    Mississippi: No state regulation regarding snow removal from public sidewalks by owners, but some cities have a Snow Removal reimbursement program, for residents to get reimbursed for hiring contractors to remove snow from streets.

                    Missouri: Most Missouri cities require property owners to clear public sidewalks–those on the public streets alongside their property–within a reasonable time after snow or ice storms are over. Property owners who exercise ordinary care in clearing sidewalks and walkways are, in general, not any more liable for injuries than those who do nothing.

                    Montana: City ordinances require Montana residents to clear public walkways, driveways and sidewalks of snow and ice within 24 hours. Residents and business owners are encouraged to shovel snow from sidewalks and driveway openings back onto their property instead of the streets.

                    Nebraska: In Omaha, property owners and occupants must remove snow and ice from public sidewalks and walkways that adjoin their property within 24 hours or face a fine. Owners must also clear the snow from mailboxes and fire hydrants on their property.

                    Nevada: Property owners need to understand that the burden is on them to keep their properties, and the adjoining public sidewalks, free and clear of snow, ice, and other dangerous conditions. Failure to do so could result in significant liability exposure if a member of the public suffers injury as a result of a slip and fall.

                    New Hampshire: Sidewalks on public roads are maintained and cleared of snow and ice by the municipality at no additional cost to property owners. State v. Jackman, 69 N.H. 318 (1898)

                    New Jersey: Single-family homeowners have no duty to clear snow or ice from their property and will only be held liable to injury claims if they make the snow condition more dangerous than what occurs naturally. Multifamily property owners must clear snow and ice from public walkways and sidewalks on and in front of their property.

                    New Mexico: Property owners are responsible for shoveling their sidewalks after each snowstorm to ensure safe pedestrian access. Snowplows may have to make several passes in front of your home or business during continuous periods of snowfall. As a result, snow may be pushed onto sidewalks that already have been cleared, and the property owner is responsible to clear this as well in Santa Fe, NM.

                    New York: Property owners are responsible for removing snow and ice from paved walkways and sidewalks outside their property in order to create a safe path for pedestrians. If a property owner has a bus stop or fire hydrant in front of his or her property, that owner is responsible for removing snow and ice from the sidewalks surrounding those areas.

                    North Carolina: Cities like Asheville, NC have a local ordinance that states property owners are required to clear the sidewalks abutting their property of ice before 10AM each day in which the temperature exceeds 40 degrees Fahrenheit.

                    North Dakota: In Fargo, ND, the Street Department maintains approximately 34 miles of City sidewalk and will clear sidewalk snow and ice following a storm. However, in Bismarck, ND residents are required to clear all snow and ice from their sidewalks and crosswalks.

                    Ohio: There is no official state law that requires homeowners remove snow but there are several local ordinances that require snow removal from public sidewalks by owners or residents.

                    Oklahoma: An ordinance in Tulsa, OK states that property owners and residents must remove snow from public sidewalks on their property within 24 hrs after snowfall.

                    Oregon: State law says the home or property owner is responsible if someone slips or falls and is injured on an icy or snowy sidewalk.

                    Pennsylvania: Property owners and those who occupy properties (i.e., single-family home tenant) have the duty to shovel sidewalks within a specified time frame after a storm has ended. Failing to do so may result in a fine. City ordinances specify a time frame and how wide the path must be when removing snow.

                    Rhode Island: A city ordinance in Providence states that all snow must be removed by a property owner from a path not less than three (3) feet in width of the entire border in or on said street, highway, or public place,” from “around any fire hydrant on the sidewalk in front of said building or lot,” from “the opening of any catch basin in the sidewalk of said building or lot,” and from “pedestrian-access ramps cut into street curbs bordering said building or lot.”

                    South Carolina: No state ordinance.

                    South Dakota: The city of Sioux Falls, South Dakota requires that the owner or person in possession of any property abutting on any sidewalk to keep the sidewalk free from snow and ice, and to remove any snow or ice from the sidewalk within 48 hours after the termination of any snow fall, snow, or ice accumulation. They also encourage assisting neighbors who may be unable to complete the task themselves.

                    Tennessee: Property owners are expected to take reasonable steps to remove snow and ice within a reasonable time after it has formed or accumulated.

                    Texas: While not every city in Texas has an ordinance on snow removal, in Dallas, Ordinances Nos. 3314 and 19398 state that an owner, tenant, lessee or occupant must remove snow and ice from the sidewalk in front of the building. Residents have 3 hrs to clear snow and ice which falls or accumulates before 4 p.m.

                    Utah: There is a city ordinance in Salt Lake City, UT that requires the owner or occupant of a property to remove snow and ice from their whole sidewalk adjacent to their property within 24 hours after a storm.

                    Vermont: In Fairfax, VT a local ordinance requires property owners to keep the public sidewalk adjacent to their property clear of snow and ice to a width of three feet. It is illegal to clear snow from driveways or private roads by depositing snow onto Town or State maintained roadways.

                    Virginia: Depending on much snow has fallen (0-6 inches or 6+ inches) property owners have 24-72 hours to remove snow from public walkways.

                    Washington: This page provides a brief overview of snow and ice removal policies and procedures for cities, towns, and counties in Washington State, including sidewalk clearance requirements.

                    West Virginia: In Morgantown, WV, property owners are required to clear snow and ice from sidewalks adjacent to their property within 24 hours of a snow event. Snow and ice removal from personal walkways, stairs, driveways, and parking spaces are at the discretion of the property owner. However, if these walkways, stairs, driveways, and parking spaces are for rental or business property, they do fall within the same 24 hour clean up standard.

                    Wisconsin: In Madison, WI owners and residents are required to clear snow from their sidewalk by noon of the day after the snow stopped. If not, crews will remove the snow and ice from the sidewalk and property owners will be billed for this service.

                    Wyoming: In the City of Buffalo, WY, owners and occupants must clear snow from the sidewalk in front of their property, whether paved or not.

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                    • #25
                      Then of course there's laws requiring mowing of lawns, etc.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                        They don’t have bodies, nor are they children.
                        So if they don't have bodies, are the ethereal?
                        P1) If , then I win.

                        P2)

                        C) I win.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                          Then of course there's laws requiring mowing of lawns, etc.
                          And using turn signals.
                          P1) If , then I win.

                          P2)

                          C) I win.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                            They don’t have bodies, nor are they children.
                            You are a liar.


                            Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by alaskazimm View Post

                              Abortion is not birth control.
                              Let's assume that's true for the sake of argument.

                              Blockading a clinic that provides abortion services AND birth control is still depriving citizens of their right to birth control.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                                Let's assume that's true for the sake of argument.

                                Blockading a clinic that provides abortion services AND birth control is still depriving citizens of their right to birth control.
                                Where did blockading clinics come in? And if there's a right to birth control then anyone can simply buy it or be prescribed it without going to an abortion mill.
                                We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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