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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    The obvious hole in that theory is the idea of anyone being lured anywhere in hopes of having sex with Hillary.
    I admit, that does strain the limits of credibility.
    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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    • Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
      If you want to know about the moral authority of international law consider this: You aren't allowed to assassinate a leader but you can kill hundreds of thousands of young men and women in his country in an effort to bring him to his knees. International law is written by old oligarchs to protect themselves. It has nothing do to with morality. Also, the idea that after WWI we banned chemical weapons only to use nuclear weaponry on Japan is another short lesson in the real meaning of those kinds of bans.
      In keeping with the 'written by old oligarchs' bit is the part where it's fine if they're combatants but don't mess with potential profits by killing the people actually producing something. I get an exemption from war because I make more money for the oligarch working than I do by shooting someone.
      Last edited by Carrikature; 04-09-2017, 05:24 PM.
      I'm not here anymore.

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      • Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
        I admit, that does strain the limits of credibility.
        And yet, she has a daughter. Or are you saying it's not really hers?
        I'm not here anymore.

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        • Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
          And yet, she has a daughter. Or are you saying it's not really hers?
          In vitro and surrogate mother.

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          • Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
            And yet, she has a daughter. Or are you saying it's not really hers?
            She is clearly her daughter.
            They are both obviously lizard people.
            Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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            • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Not quite.

              Currently I think the balance of probability leans towards the idea that the Syrian rebels (ISIS, and Al Qaeda etc) faked a chemical attack which they blamed on Assad, but really no chemicals were used and the rebels just recorded footage and photos of bodies and people they had killed, in order to try and get the West to side against the rebel's enemy Assad. It worked and most of the world believed there had been an attack and that it was done by Assad.

              The Trump administration seems to have then gone to Putin and discussed what their response was going to be. The Trump team said "we have to look strong" and "we can't let the use of chemical weapons go unchallenged". Putin said "Assad is my guy, leave him alone." They came up with a compromise that the US would do a symbolic strike against a pre-evacuated airfield where the chemical attacks had been launched from, to demonstrate power and show a response and totally show that they weren't in the pocket of the Russians because they were prepared to act against Assad. And Putin agreed to publicly denounce that action and say that what the US was doing was terrible, and that he totally opposed what the Trump administration was doing in Syria, wink.

              That's currently what I think probably happened. But obviously as more information comes to light, my working hypothesis will be updated.

              Yah right.

              I called it.

              Originally posted by Sparko
              on the Rachel Maddow show she had someone on there that seriously put forward the idea that Putin gassed the children just to give Trump an excuse to retaliate and make him look good and hide his Russian connection.

              You, Tassy and JimL will probably think that is a viable conspiracy.
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Right, I made that point in another thread. Thats exactly what I believe happened. The Sarin probably came from Russia itself for this sole purpose, to kill a hundred or so innocent Syrian civilians in order to give Trump the opportunity to look good, to look as though he is not tied to Putin. Putin probably instructed Trump to attack Syria. There is method to his madness!
              A decent hypothesis. But remember Trump looked like he had no clue for a few days after it happened. Putin certainly didn't seem to have given anyone in the Trump administration a heads-up that it was going to happen.

              It makes me think that Turkey is possibly the more likely culprit. They want to pretend it was Assad in order to discredit him. Then I think Putin + Trump made the most of it by agreeing that Trump should do a symbolic strike against Russian interests in Syria to look strong / show he's not a Russian puppet.

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              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                I doubt that star, I doubt the Syrian rebels faked the attack, those were real people who were really dying. But what I wouldn't disbelieve is that this whole thing was orchestrated by Putin, Trump and Syria. It really doesn't make much sense otherwise. Why would Syria after all this time suddenly decide to use chemical weapons, weapons which they and their strongest ally, the Russians, had assured the world were disposed of. Why would Syria implicate their strongest ally, Russia. I don't think they would, I don't think they would do that without Putins okay. We all know that they have it in them, they are both obvious psychopaths, and it gives Trump the opportunity to look as though he is not in Putin's pocket by shooting a few tomahawk missiles at an abandoned air base, doing little damage which the Russians can then repair in short order. Having his buddy Trump in the White House is more important to Putin than any backlash he might get for his role in the chemical weapons attack by Assad.
                Like I said, I figured JimL, Tassman and Starlight would believe such a cockamamie conspiracy theory. Russsia who is siding with Syria against the USA, helps Trump by bombing children with sarin gas so that Trump could look good by bombing the Russian's Syrian allies.

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                • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  Like I said, I figured JimL, Tassman and Starlight would believe such a cockamamie conspiracy theory. Russsia who is siding with Syria against the USA, helps Trump by bombing children with sarin gas so that Trump could look good by bombing the Russian's Syrian allies.
                  Putin gives and gives and gives...
                  Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                  • Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                    Putin gives and gives and gives...
                    He is so underappreciated. I think Trump should send him a box of chocolates, made with child labor.

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                    • Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                      Putin gives and gives and gives...
                      Putin giveth, and Putin taketh away.
                      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        Like I said, I figured JimL, Tassman and Starlight would believe such a cockamamie conspiracy theory. Russsia who is siding with Syria against the USA, helps Trump by bombing children with sarin gas so that Trump could look good by bombing the Russian's Syrian allies.
                        Thats right Sparko, thats the theory. Trump warned Russia ahead of time, therefore Syria also new the attack was coming, very little damage was done. So what was accomplished? Nothing, thats what. Syrian jets were flying bombing missions out of that base the next day. So Trump gets to look as though he's standing up to Putin by bombing Syria, Putin's ally, while doing very little damage. The strategy also changes the focus of the media, away from the investigation of Trump, his associates, and their suspected collusion with Russian operatives during the election.

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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Thats right Sparko, thats the theory. Trump warned Russia ahead of time, therefore Syria also new the attack was coming, very little damage was done. So what was accomplished? Nothing, thats what. Syrian jets were flying bombing missions out of that base the next day. So Trump gets to look as though he's standing up to Putin by bombing Syria, Putin's ally, while doing very little damage. The strategy also changes the focus of the media, away from the investigation of Trump, his associates, and their suspected collusion with Russian operatives during the election.


                          Putin: Hey Trump, ol Comrade! I have terrific idea how to get FBI off the trail. I will use some Sarin gas we have left over from killing Russian dissidents and I will use it to kill little babies in Syria. Then we blame Assad and you send missiles to blow up air field and teach him lesson. You look good for defending babies, look like strong man and liberals will eat it up. No more Russia conspiracy! We celebrate with Vodka, yes?

                          Trump: Putin, I gotta say, that is a brilliant idea, very smart, very smart. I will look like a hero to America and only a few dozen brats have to die. And those nosy FBI guys will stop their investigation because they will see that I am not afraid of Russia and not your friend. Very smart. I love it! Tell Assad hello and to move his planes out of the way so he can use them later to bomb even more children! I will send over some Cuban Cigars later. I got a great deal on them from Fidel before he kicked the bucket. Hugs to the wife. bye.


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                          • Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
                            And yet, she has a daughter. Or are you saying it's not really hers?
                            Webster Hubbell got a LOT of money to pretend that he was Bill that night.


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                            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Like I said, I figured JimL, Tassman and Starlight would believe such a cockamamie conspiracy theory. Russsia who is siding with Syria against the USA, helps Trump by bombing children with sarin gas so that Trump could look good by bombing the Russian's Syrian allies.
                              Out today: Official: Russia knew Syrian chemical attack was coming:

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                              • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Funny how you ignore this part just two paragraphs later:
                                Another U.S. official cautioned that no final American determination has been made that Russia knew ahead of time that chemical weapons would be used.

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