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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    The ones with fires raging in the background? Absolutely. Have I ever mocked the truly peaceful ones? Never.

    The rest of your post is typical leftist nonsense which really doesn't deserve much in the way of response.
    That statement is so very telling CP ...

    Jim, the Republican Party is corrupt, which is why I left it many years ago, and am an Independent.
    The Democrat Party, on the other hand, has outright sold their soul to the Devil.
    It amazes me how much more aligned with them you become as time goes on.
    They are both quite corrupt. But you are sorely mistaken if you think my positions on these issues are based on a particular political party's take on them.

    Yeah, yeah, I know -- I'm a bully, I hate your guts, blah blah blah...
    Well, at least you admit it now
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      This seems so incredibly out of touch with reality --- can you even IMAGINE a situation were 5 white cops beat up a black guy, and the media does not explode in constant reporting, "mostly peaceful" protests breaking out all over the place, and the press all over the trial demanding 'justice'?
      Can we take a moment to reflect on how many times this probably happened in the past, before police body cameras and before public/media sensitivity on this matter?
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Can we take a moment to reflect on how many times this probably happened in the past, before police body cameras and before public/media sensitivity on this matter?
        I already did, and have been talking about post George Floyd.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          That statement is so very telling CP ...
          I wrote what I wrote --- make of it what you will. You see particularly 'gifted' at that.

          They are both quite corrupt. But you are sorely mistaken if you think my positions on these issues are based on a particular political party's take on them.
          The fact that your "positions" on these issues very closely mirror the leftist anti-Christian positions of the Democratic party is - as you say - very telling.

          Jim, you're pretty much at war and at variance with every Christian on this board, and amen'd and applauded by those who are enemies of the Cross.
          How did that happen?

          Well, at least you admit it now
          And there's that emotional roller coaster.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            the leftist anti-Christian positions of the Democratic party


            Wow you live in backwards-land. Insane.
            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post


              Wow you live in backwards-land. Insane.
              Jesus warned there would be people like you, so I'm not the least bit surprised.

              Jim, here's one of your buddies rushing to your aid, right on cue!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Jesus warned there would be people like you, so I'm not the least bit surprised.
                Pretty sure he warned of wolves in sheep's clothing like yourself.
                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #38

                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Pretty sure he warned of wolves in sheep's clothing like yourself.


                  I almost spit out my coffee laughing at that.

                  A self-proclaimed atheist thinking he knows the sheep from the wolves.


                  Lookie here, Jim, the atheist runs in to defend you.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    ...



                    The fact that your "positions" on these issues very closely mirror the leftist anti-Christian positions of the Democratic party is - as you say - very telling.
                    It's more a consequence of what are the hot button issues those from the right on this website. And my positions are not Anti-Christian CP. They are all based on my Christian faith and what the scripture teaches.

                    Jim, you're pretty much at war and at variance with every Christian on this board, and amen'd and applauded by those who are enemies of the Cross.
                    How did that happen?
                    The Christians on this board represent a very specific kind of American Evangelical Christian with fundamentalist leanings. Many have a strong anti-science bias, and many are steeped in very strong, very Americanized sort of variant of Christian faith that often strays rather widely from the teachings of Christ, especially on social issues. We hold the same core beliefs, but we differ a great deal on those ancillary issues where I believe you and others here have 'missed the mark' as it were. Unfortunately, these areas of divergence are more popular on this discussion board than the areas of convergence.




                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post




                      I almost spit out my coffee laughing at that.

                      A self-proclaimed atheist thinking he knows the sheep from the wolves.


                      Lookie here, Jim, the atheist runs in to defend you.
                      This is one of those areas where I and many on this board differ greatly. An atheist is a person for whom Christ died, with whom Christ wishes to have fellowship. Treating them like cow dung while you, the saintly saint, bask in your righteousness in comparison to them, is rather contrary to Christ's teaching on the topic.
                      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                        It's more a consequence of what are the hot button issues those from the right on this website. And my positions are not Anti-Christian CP. They are all based on my Christian faith and what the scripture teaches.
                        I disagree. You have demonstrated a dogged determination to "see" Scripture in a way that supports your position, Jim. Abortion is a classic example.

                        The Christians on this board represent a very specific kind of American Evangelical Christian with fundamentalist leanings.
                        Woah!!! "Evangelical" is a dirty word! I'm not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, Jim -- in that, I confess clearly and openly I'm "Evangelical".
                        You seem far more entrenched in the "social gospel" aspect, pretty much devoid of anything evangelical.

                        Many have a strong anti-science bias, and many are steeped in very strong
                        This "strong anti-science bias" you mention is a steaming pile of horsie poo. We (at least I) don't swallow everything that the left throws out there, much of which has been proven to be bogus, and so much of which seems geared to frighten and control. I don't worship at the altar of science.

                        very Americanized sort of variant of Christian faith that often strays rather widely from the teachings of Christ, especially on social issues.
                        It doesn't have to be an either / or, Jim --- some of us do both --- but all I ever see you doing is battling Christians and drifting farther and farther left.

                        We hold the same core beliefs, but we differ a great deal on those ancillary issues where I believe you and others here have 'missed the mark' as it were.


                        Unfortunately, these areas of divergence are more popular on this discussion board than the areas of convergence.
                        Perhaps if you didn't try to turn virtually every thread into another "I HATE TRUMP" thread, and, instead, focused on those things you claim we "hold the same core beliefs" in.

                        I'll ask you again, Jim ---- have you EVER started a thread here that shares the Love of Christ, encourages, shows JOY, talks about what God is doing in your life....

                        Your whole presence here has pretty much been battling Christians and attacking Trump and 'conservatives'.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          I disagree. You have demonstrated a dogged determination to "see" Scripture in a way that supports your position, Jim. Abortion is a classic example.
                          On the contrary, it is you that refuses to recognize what scripture in exodus has to say about it.


                          Woah!!! "Evangelical" is a dirty word! I'm not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, Jim -- in that, I confess clearly and openly I'm "Evangelical".
                          You seem far more entrenched in the "social gospel" aspect, pretty much devoid of anything evangelical.
                          There you go again. I made no qualitative judgement of the term evangelical itself. I myself am evangelical. But I am not fundamentalist or heavily into the sorts of legalism that you and many here are. (Of course, you don't think of yourselves as 'legalistic' because you know that is not necessarily a good thing).

                          This "strong anti-science bias" you mention is a steaming pile of horsie poo. We (at least I) don't swallow everything
                          I siad 'many here', which may or may not include you. And of course, it depends on the topic. Most of you are strongly anti-science when it comes to Global warming. Some are anti-science wrt evolution. Most of you have demonstrated your anti-science bias wrt the Covid-19 virus.

                          However most of you are not anti-science at all when it comes to cool gadgets, or astronomy, or physics, or chemistry. Those topics many of you actually like and embrace science.

                          Actually, there is a strong correlation between the science you like and the science you don't like. The science you don't like is the science democrats embrace, or the science that threatens in one way or another certain religious convictions.

                          I that the left throws out there, much of which has been proven to be bogus, and so much of which seems geared to frighten and control. I don't worship at the altar of science.
                          Well, that is - as I pointed out - how you justify your anti-science bias. And no Chrisitan I know of 'worships at the alter of science'. But some Christians are less likely to reject a scientific observation based on a perceived threat to their traditional beliefs than others. My guiding motto on this is that God is not afraid of the Truth. Rather, He is the author of it. Therefore I have nothing to fear from any new scientific discovery - though I may not understand immediately how it fits into what I believe is true spiritually.


                          It doesn't have to be an either / or, Jim --- some of us do both --- but all I ever see you doing is battling Christians and drifting farther and farther left.
                          I don't battle Christians CP. I battle wrong ideas and ignorance. The fact so much of that is coming from Christians on this web site has nothing to do with the fact they are Christians. It has to do with the fact they (or we) have embraced something other than Christ in the areas we do battle.



                          Perhaps if you didn't try to turn virtually every thread into another "I HATE TRUMP" thread, and, instead, focused on those things you claim we "hold the same core beliefs" in.

                          I'll ask you again, Jim ---- have you EVER started a thread here that shares the Love of Christ, encourages, shows JOY, talks about what God is doing in your life....

                          Your whole presence here has pretty much been battling Christians and attacking Trump and 'conservatives'.
                          I only have a limited time for this sort of thing CP. And there is not one of you that would engage me peacefully or gracefully on such a topic. If you guys are going to spew bile and hatred non-stop, I'd much rather it be on secular topics than Spiritual ones. Nothing is a worse witness that Christians spewing hatred at each other and spitting on each other over some theological disagreement.
                          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            On the contrary, it is you that refuses to recognize what scripture in exodus has to say about it.
                            Me, and pretty much all of Christendom.

                            There you go again. I made no qualitative judgement of the term evangelical itself. I myself am evangelical. But I am not fundamentalist or heavily into the sorts of legalism that you and many here are. (Of course, you don't think of yourselves as 'legalistic' because you know that is not necessarily a good thing).
                            "by their fruits you shall know them", Jim, and I don't recall anything "evangelical" coming from you. And your goofy little accusation of "legalism" here is... well... downright goofy.

                            I siad 'many here', which may or may not include you.
                            But you were addressing me, Jim.

                            And of course, it depends on the topic. Most of you are strongly anti-science when it comes to Global warming. Some are anti-science wrt evolution. Most of you have demonstrated your anti-science bias wrt the Covid-19 virus.
                            I don't buy all the doom and gloom the loony left is putting out in the name of science, no.

                            However most of you are not anti-science at all when it comes to cool gadgets, or astronomy, or physics, or chemistry. Those topics many of you actually like and embrace science.
                            Especially cool gadgets like ultrasound and stuff that lets you see an actual BABY forming in the womb!

                            Actually, there is a strong correlation between the science you like and the science you don't like. The science you don't like is the science democrats embrace, or the science that threatens in one way or another certain religious convictions.
                            Laughing. You really are hysterical.

                            Well, that is - as I pointed out - how you justify your anti-science bias. And no Chrisitan I know of 'worships at the alter of science'. But some Christians are less likely to reject a scientific observations based on a perceived threat to their traditional beliefs than others. My guiding motto on this is that God is not afraid of the Truth. Rather, He is the author of it. Therefore I have nothing to fear from any new scientific discovery - though I may not understand immediately how it fits into what I believe is true spiritually.
                            I believe you are "religious" Jim.

                            I don't battle Christians CP.
                            You're on a roll!!!! It's pretty much the ONLY people with whom you do battle.

                            I battle wrong ideas and ignorance. The fact so much of that is coming from Christians on this web site has nothing to do with the fact they are Christians. It has to do with the fact they have embraced something other than Christ in the areas we do battle.
                            So, why stay here? If we're all a bunch of right wing extremist legalistic Evangelistic fundamentalists, why are you even here?

                            I only have a limited time for this sort of thing CP.
                            Yet, here you are. Again. Are you gonna do another of your goofy "tick tick tick BOOM things again" (or whatever that little outburst was), where you pretty much prophesied your own little outburst and disappeared again?

                            And there is not one of you that would engage me peacefully or gracefully on such a topic.
                            That's an outright lie - I have tried to have (and was successful for short periods of time) decent conversations with you on more than a few occasions.

                            Oh, here we go......
                            \If you guys are going to spew bile and hatred non-stop,
                            You are singularly known all over this board for your hatred and bile of all things Trump --- it has literally become who you are! And anybody who stand up to your hate-filled rants is "attacking you".

                            I'd much rather it be on secular topics than Spiritual ones. Nothing is a worse witness that Christians spewing hatred at each other and spitting on each other over some theological disagreement.
                            Says the guy who has made his sole identity OMB.

                            Jim, you seem absolutely incapable of disagreeing agreeably, without it turning into "personal attacks" against you, or perceiving others as "hate-filled"..... You are an emotional roller coaster.

                            "spewing bile and hatred non-stop".... sheeeeeesh..... somebody has apparently stolen your Joy, and it ain't coming back any time soon.

                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                              Unfortunate. They should have been charged with more.
                              What do you think they should have been charged with? This doesn't seem to fall under first degree murder.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                                What do you think they should have been charged with? This doesn't seem to fall under first degree murder.
                                I'm sure there will be civil rights violations charges -- unless that only applies to white cops who seriously abuse their power.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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