Christian Evangelism isn't a Political Party

[lilpixieofterror]

They're not free. And if you're dumb you won't use them when needed.

They're not? Funny because I seem to recall that birth control is specifically mandated to be free for those on insurance and I also recall claims that women health centers exist to help pay for them too. Yet people still do this. It's almost as if you need to put in some effort to get these services. Imagine that...

I'm not burdened because I make enough money to live on my own and pay back my loans. And I didn't get the government to pay for college for me.

I didn't get the government to pay for mine either and earned those benefits by spending years of my life away from my family. TA and the GI Bill are benefits I was given by my employer. Do you not use benefits your employer provides you with? You make it sound as though I didn't earn any of it. Tell you what, when your job requires you get a call that sends you away for 6 months or more, with a few hours notice, to some hole in in the middle of nowhere; you can tell me that I didn't earn what I got. Lots of people make a whole lot more money than I do with that sort of arrangement (like 6 figures level). I earned those kind of benefits.

[JonathanL]

80% of white evangelicals voted for Trump.

Does that mean 80% of all white evangelicals who voted voted for Trump, or 80% of all white evangelicals voted for Trump?

[KingsGambit]

Does that mean 80% of all white evangelicals who voted voted for Trump, or 80% of all white evangelicals voted for Trump?

It can't be the latter because plenty of white evangelicals weren't eligible to vote (weren't 18, don't live in the US, etc.)

[Terraceth]

80% of white evangelicals voted for Trump.

Uh... no. I believe those numbers come from exit polls, which are of questionable validity to begin with, but even if we accept them as true, all that says is that 80% of white evangelicals who voted voted for Trump. I don't know what percentage of white evangelicals voted but you have to multiply the two together in order to get the actual percentage.

[Starlight]

I don't know what percentage of white evangelicals voted

85%. It was pretty high-turnout.

[Leonhard]

Getting good statistics is hard on this issue, but so far it seems that white evangelicals, in general, voted for Trump. I'm not sure I can blame them though, as it was either a choice between a person who might put in two conservative judges in the Supreme Court, to fill the shoes of Scalia who had suddenly died, vs Hillary who is somehow even more pro-abortion than Obama, and who might push a moderate judge, or worse, in. Ultimately a Hillary win would have pushed the Supreme Court further left than before Scalia, and evangelicals could only anticipate further losses and probably no wins in their favor.

So it was a choice between a corrupt president who owed billions in federal taxes while pretending to be rich, who has a criminally poor taste in aesthetics and lives more on image than substance, vs someone conservatives in general saw as unreliable, and untrustworthy vis-a-vis the email scandals, as supporting a horrible sin and voting for her would be being complicit in that.

I'll never look down on Christians who voted for the lesser of two evils.

I'm only angry with the Christians who pretend that God anointed Trump, that he can do no wrong, or that he's the best thing since Reagan.

[Meh Gerbil]

I'm only angry with the Christians who pretend that God anointed Trump, that he can do no wrong, or that he's the best thing since Reagan.

I've yet to meet a single person that feels that way on any level.
I'm talking Trump voters here - every one I've met has been very tentative.

[Leonhard]

I've yet to meet a single person that feels that way on any level.
I'm talking Trump voters here - every one I've met has been very tentative.

I have met more and more Christians, so far only charismatics, who are claiming something about Jeremiah 45 and Trump being annointed by God, and therefore any criticism of Trump is tantamount to resisting say Elijah. A benedictine monk that recently visted to perform a traditional rite mass for a group of traditional Catholics I'm part of, was equally disturbed that some of the laypeople had scolded him as a monk for criticizing Trump, saying things like 'Fr. don't you know that Trump was annointed by God'.

You might not have seen a lot of it, but I'm seeing it more and more, and it's a very disturbing sight.

[Meh Gerbil]

I have met more and more Christians, so far only charismatics, who are claiming something about Jeremiah 45 and Trump being annointed by God, and therefore any criticism of Trump is tantamount to resisting say Elijah.

Charismatics do that with every politician.
Remember when Obama was the anti-Christ?
Nobody can just be the President anymore.

[Adrift]

I have met more and more Christians, so far only charismatics, who are claiming something about Jeremiah 45 and Trump being annointed by God, and therefore any criticism of Trump is tantamount to resisting say Elijah. A benedictine monk that recently visted to perform a traditional rite mass for a group of traditional Catholics I'm part of, was equally disturbed that some of the laypeople had scolded him as a monk for criticizing Trump, saying things like 'Fr. don't you know that Trump was annointed by God'.

You might not have seen a lot of it, but I'm seeing it more and more, and it's a very disturbing sight.

Not saying it's not happening, but where exactly are you meeting these Christians who are making these comparisons? I know a lot of charismatics. I haven't met any who've made that sort of comparison. At least, not in front of me.

[Darth Executor]

or that he's the best thing since Reagan.

So far Trump is much better than Reagan.

[Leonhard]

Not saying it's not happening, but where exactly are you meeting these Christians who are making these comparisons? I know a lot of charismatics. I haven't met any who've made that sort of comparison. At least, not in front of me.

In general, it is showing up more and more online, and I didn't think much of it. All comments to sites are always subject to a horrendous selection bias. For instance, if a Christian apologetics site makes an article critical of the notion of Trump being annointed by God, then you can likely expect at least a couple of people in those articles claiming otherwise (ranting something about Trump rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem and triggering the Rapture etc...). However then it started to show in the danish Facebook groups of Catholics, and when people I know like Fr. Benedict Andersen is running into lay people saying stuff like that, then at the very least it's something on the rise.

These days I try to stay away from people in general except for some close friends.

[Meh Gerbil]

Leonard,
I changed my signature line for you.
Enjoy.

-Meh Gerbil

[Leonhard]

Leonard,
I changed my signature line for you.
Enjoy.

-Meh Gerbil

Screw you.

[Starlight]

God anointed Trump, he can do no wrong, and he's the best thing since Reagan!