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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd take him seriously but not literally?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt's probably because nobody has seen a single person on any venue, who leans left, do anything but go apoplectic with rage trying to turn the tiniest of molehills into Mount Everest-sized controversies. What you're getting as a result can be expressed by Brum recentlyThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostIt's actually pretty wide - and I intentionally made it wider after Trump was elected (hence my presence here). I don't know if conservatives talk differently among themselves, but when a moderate or liberal is in the room...crickets (or defense/denial/justification/whataboutism).Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThat has to be one of the dumbest statements I've heard, and a marvelous example of the "dismissal" option.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou're just jealous because it's better than that dumb "whataboutism". Every time I see that I think....
Whataboutism: Lousy debate strategy...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWhataburger: Good burger...
crying Whataboutism: Nothingburger...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI know in my case that I would love it if liberals came up with substantive, meaty criticisms of Trump instead of the constant whooping and hollering about non-existent Russian collusion, opinion pieces that twist Trump's every utterance into a "lie", and screaming "It's a Constitutional crisis!" everytime Trump so much as looks at someone funny. The reason conservatives are so quick to dismiss liberal arguments against Trump is because that's the only appropriate response to their feather-weight criticisms. Like I said, stop attacking the grotesque caricature you've fabricated in your mind and you liberals might actually be taken seriously for a change.
For the record, I agree that "constitutional crisis" gets hauled out too often. So too does "treason." So too does "racism." And the list goes on. I could give you my list of why I believe Trump is unfit for office, but I see little point in doing so. History tells me it will be explained/dismissed/denied, or I'll get a stream of whataboutisms, or it will simply be labeled "liberal whining." So I'll content myself with doing what I can to influence those I can to vote against this man and get him out of that office in 2020.
I'm feeling pretty optimistic about that!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Postfify
Look closely, CP. The tag says "quote" and it posts with my SN above it. So you're basically lying...
You can be better than that.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI could give you my list of why I believe Trump is unfit for office...
Go ahead - cry "whataboutism"! I doubledog dare ya.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostPersonally, I believe Trump is unfit for office, but Hillary was unfitterer.
Go ahead - cry "whataboutism"! I doubledog dare ya.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostFrankly, I thought you were one of those above editing other people's posts to say something other than what they said.
Look closely, CP. The tag says "quote" and it posts with my SN above it. So you're basically lying...
You can be better than that.
Waaaannnhhhhh, "you can be better than that, CP"
You can be better than that!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThis is not a case of whataboutism: it is a comparison between two candidates that served as the basis for your voting decision. We disagree on your conclusion, but your position is clear.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOh, quit the sanctimonious tripe, Carpe - it's a joke! The "fify" is the indicator that the post was edited, along with the bolding. You're being such a wimp.
Waaaannnhhhhh, "you can be better than that, CP"
You can be better than that!
(I also have no clue what "fify" means)The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostSo now you know I don't find the joke funny. I'll leave it to you to decide what you want to do about that.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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