Pedophilia - The Next Taboo To Fall?

[Cerebrum123]

You really can't use the lack of words of Jesus in the Bible to prove he didn't address a particular topic. John tells us "there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written".

Argument from silence is a bad argument even without that verse.

[Cow Poke]

Argument from silence is a bad argument even without that verse.

Absolutely.

[One Bad Pig]

I recall one history I was reading about the Eastern Orthodox church's interactions with the West centuries ago, and the historian commented that one particular Bishop whom the EO selected to lead their envoy was generally thought to be an atheist and that the EO of the time was tolerant of that... nominal Christians seem to have been around at all times in history.

This is sort of vague. Do you have anything to help pin this down? The EO had a hard time finding envoys for interacting with the West after the Fourth Crusade sacked Constantinople in 1204; a number of them ended up decamping to the West. I agree that nominal Christians have been around for much of church history (I doubt there were many during/just after times of persecution, since nominal Christians would logically be the first to recant).

[tabibito]

Nominal Christians seem to have first made a noticeable appearance just after Rome accepted Christianity as the State Religion. Though from Paul's and James' comments, it would seem there have always been a few. Technically, even from the first: note the falling away among the disciples after Jesus spoke of eating his flesh and drinking his blood (John 6:48 - 66)

[Starlight]

This is sort of vague. Do you have anything to help pin this down?

Sorry, it's too many years since I read it. It was definitely an envoy from Constantinople and I think they might have been going to Rome, but I can't remember what the subject of their discussions was, or which historian I was reading.

[One Bad Pig]

Sorry, it's too many years since I read it. It was definitely an envoy from Constantinople and I think they might have been going to Rome, but I can't remember what the subject of their discussions was, or which historian I was reading.

I suspect you're referring to Georgius Gemistus Plethon, who was an envoy, but not a bishop. He wasn't an atheist, per se, but he was rather more enamored of the paganism of old than Christianity.

[rogue06]

I suspect you're referring to Georgius Gemistus Plethon, who was an envoy, but not a bishop. He wasn't an atheist, per se, but he was rather more enamored of the paganism of old than Christianity.

If its the same guy I'm thinking of he was definitely enamored with the Greco-Roman pagan gods and wanted their worship revived.

[Jedidiah]

In other words it ain't in scripture. Thanks for the confirmation.

[Starlight]

In other words it ain't in scripture. Thanks for the confirmation.

Correct, an anti-abortion position isn't in scripture.

[Tassman]

You really can't use the lack of words of Jesus in the Bible to prove he didn't address a particular topic. John tells us "there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written".

I'm not using the lack of words of Jesus in the Bible to prove he didn't address a particular topic. But the fact is he he does address things he presumably thought were more important than abortion or homosexuality, e.g. divorce. And his silence on abortion can reasonably be understood as Jesus, as a Jew, accepting the Jewish tradition that full human rights are obtained only when the first breath is drawn.

[Cow Poke]

I'm not using the lack of words of Jesus in the Bible to prove he didn't address a particular topic. But the fact is he he does address things he presumably thought were more important than abortion or homosexuality, e.g. divorce. And his silence on abortion can reasonably be understood as Jesus, as a Jew, accepting the Jewish tradition that full human rights are obtained only when the first breath is drawn.

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[Starlight]

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A bit of a self-parody picture given how often that man is wrong about things.

[Cow Poke]

A bit of a self-parody picture given how often that man is wrong about things.

I just did that to poke the libs. Looks like it worked.

[Starlight]

I just did that to poke the libs. Looks like it worked.

Does having libs laugh at what you post/you count as 'poking' them?

[Cow Poke]

Does having libs laugh at what you post/you count as 'poking' them?

Quite honestly, I don't give a flyin' flip what you think or say.