Supreme Court rules in favor of Black Lives Matter organizer

[shunyadragon]

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/02/politics/supreme-court-black-lives-matter-organizer/index.html

(CNN)The Supreme Court wiped away a lower court opinion related to Black Lives Matter protests that critics argued would chill the speech rights of demonstrators and dismantle civil rights era precedent that safeguards the First Amendments' right to protest.

The lower court allowed a Louisiana police officer to move forward with lawsuit to hold the organizer of a Black Lives Matter protest, DeRay McKesson, accountable for injuries the officer sustained in 2016 when he was hit by a heavy object. McKesson himself did not hurl the object; the person who did is still unidentified.

The officer from the Baton Rouge Police Department, who is using a pseudonym, did not attempt to sue the still unidentified rock thrower for damages, but instead, Mckesson, the organizer of the event. The officer suffered from a brain injury, loss of teeth, and a head injury.

The case explores the reach of the First Amendment when it comes to civil rights protests and it comes as the country is reeling from renewed demonstrations after the death of George Floyd in Minnesota.


In an unsigned order, the justices sent the case back down to the lower courts to further review Louisiana law holding that before getting to important constitutional questions, more guidance from state courts is necessary.
Justice Amy Coney Barrett did not participate in the decision, the Supreme Court's public information officer said, because she was busy preparing for oral arguments. Justice Clarence Thomas dissented.

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[CivilDiscourse]

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/02/politics/supreme-court-black-lives-matter-organizer/index.html

(CNN)The Supreme Court wiped away a lower court opinion related to Black Lives Matter protests that critics argued would chill the speech rights of demonstrators and dismantle civil rights era precedent that safeguards the First Amendments' right to protest.

The lower court allowed a Louisiana police officer to move forward with lawsuit to hold the organizer of a Black Lives Matter protest, DeRay McKesson, accountable for injuries the officer sustained in 2016 when he was hit by a heavy object. McKesson himself did not hurl the object; the person who did is still unidentified.

The officer from the Baton Rouge Police Department, who is using a pseudonym, did not attempt to sue the still unidentified rock thrower for damages, but instead, Mckesson, the organizer of the event. The officer suffered from a brain injury, loss of teeth, and a head injury.

The case explores the reach of the First Amendment when it comes to civil rights protests and it comes as the country is reeling from renewed demonstrations after the death of George Floyd in Minnesota.


In an unsigned order, the justices sent the case back down to the lower courts to further review Louisiana law holding that before getting to important constitutional questions, more guidance from state courts is necessary.
Justice Amy Coney Barrett did not participate in the decision, the Supreme Court's public information officer said, because she was busy preparing for oral arguments. Justice Clarence Thomas dissented.

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As much as I don't like BLM's, it's the right ruling.

[seer]

As much as I don't like BLM's, it's the right ruling.

I agree...

[CivilDiscourse]

I agree...

Yup. It's really a bad idea to hold a speakers/organizer responsible for the choices and actions of others. I mean, democrats like to do that sort of thing, but it is antithetical to free speech.

[CivilDiscourse]

Yup. It's really a bad idea to hold a speakers/organizer responsible for the choices and actions of others. I mean, democrats like to do that sort of thing, but it is antithetical to free speech.

I wonder how many think this is still valid after the capitol protest

[shunyadragon]

I wonder how many think this is still valid after the capitol protest

Still valid. the Capital building seditious mob riot exceeds any act against the Union since the Civil War.

[CivilDiscourse]

Still valid. the Capital building seditious mob riot exceeds any act against the Union since the Civil War.

Bigger than when bombs were set off in the Capitol?

[shunyadragon]

Bigger than when bombs were set off in the Capitol?

Source?

[CivilDiscourse]

Source?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...mpts-violence/

1915: Fourth of July bombing of Senate Reception Room


As the nation headed into the Fourth of July weekend in 1915, a former Harvard University professor named Erich Muenter exploded three sticks of dynamite in the Senate Reception Room. Muenter later explained that he was angry that American financiers were aiding the U.K. in World War I despite America’s official neutrality at the time. There were no injuries—the Senate was out of session—but the New York Times reported at the time that the explosion had shattered a chandelier, damaged the plaster on the room’s ceiling, and blew open doors—including one to the office of the vice president

1954: Puerto Rican nationalist attack


In 1954, long before the Capitol had higher security, including metal detectors, four Puerto Rican nationalists entered the House gallery, took out guns, and began firing indiscriminately. One waved a Puerto Rico flag. Five House members were wounded in the protest aimed at independence for the commonwealth, which the United States seized from Spain in 1898 during the Spanish-American War. The attackers served long prison terms, which were commuted by President Jimmy Carter in 1979 after an international campaign.

1971: Weather Underground bombing


The violent antiwar Weather Underground planted a bomb in a bathroom on the Senate side of the Capitol. The explosion in the early hours of March 1, 1971 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, but no casualties.

1983: Bomb goes off on the Senate side


There were no casualties either when a bomb hidden under a bench outside the Senate Chamber exploded, blowing the hinges off the door to the office of Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia. A group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit carried out the attack to protest the military's actions in Grenada and Lebanon. Seven people were charged in the attack.

[Stoic]

I wonder how many think this is still valid after the capitol protest

Do you believe that Trump was only trying to gather people together to protest peacefully?

[Thoughtful Monk]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...mpts-violence/

1915: Fourth of July bombing of Senate Reception Room


As the nation headed into the Fourth of July weekend in 1915, a former Harvard University professor named Erich Muenter exploded three sticks of dynamite in the Senate Reception Room. Muenter later explained that he was angry that American financiers were aiding the U.K. in World War I despite America’s official neutrality at the time. There were no injuries—the Senate was out of session—but the New York Times reported at the time that the explosion had shattered a chandelier, damaged the plaster on the room’s ceiling, and blew open doors—including one to the office of the vice president

1954: Puerto Rican nationalist attack


In 1954, long before the Capitol had higher security, including metal detectors, four Puerto Rican nationalists entered the House gallery, took out guns, and began firing indiscriminately. One waved a Puerto Rico flag. Five House members were wounded in the protest aimed at independence for the commonwealth, which the United States seized from Spain in 1898 during the Spanish-American War. The attackers served long prison terms, which were commuted by President Jimmy Carter in 1979 after an international campaign.

1971: Weather Underground bombing


The violent antiwar Weather Underground planted a bomb in a bathroom on the Senate side of the Capitol. The explosion in the early hours of March 1, 1971 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, but no casualties.

1983: Bomb goes off on the Senate side


There were no casualties either when a bomb hidden under a bench outside the Senate Chamber exploded, blowing the hinges off the door to the office of Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia. A group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit carried out the attack to protest the military's actions in Grenada and Lebanon. Seven people were charged in the attack.

I had forgotten about these although admittedly I wasn't born or too young to notice. I guess violence at the Capital isn't as unprecedented as I thought.

[shunyadragon]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...mpts-violence/

1915: Fourth of July bombing of Senate Reception Room


As the nation headed into the Fourth of July weekend in 1915, a former Harvard University professor named Erich Muenter exploded three sticks of dynamite in the Senate Reception Room. Muenter later explained that he was angry that American financiers were aiding the U.K. in World War I despite America’s official neutrality at the time. There were no injuries—the Senate was out of session—but the New York Times reported at the time that the explosion had shattered a chandelier, damaged the plaster on the room’s ceiling, and blew open doors—including one to the office of the vice president

1954: Puerto Rican nationalist attack


In 1954, long before the Capitol had higher security, including metal detectors, four Puerto Rican nationalists entered the House gallery, took out guns, and began firing indiscriminately. One waved a Puerto Rico flag. Five House members were wounded in the protest aimed at independence for the commonwealth, which the United States seized from Spain in 1898 during the Spanish-American War. The attackers served long prison terms, which were commuted by President Jimmy Carter in 1979 after an international campaign.

1971: Weather Underground bombing


The violent antiwar Weather Underground planted a bomb in a bathroom on the Senate side of the Capitol. The explosion in the early hours of March 1, 1971 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, but no casualties.

1983: Bomb goes off on the Senate side


There were no casualties either when a bomb hidden under a bench outside the Senate Chamber exploded, blowing the hinges off the door to the office of Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia. A group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit carried out the attack to protest the military's actions in Grenada and Lebanon. Seven people were charged in the attack.

None of these involved a president of the United States encouraging a seditious mob take over the Capital building, and the involvement of a significant number of the members of a major political party. The above incidents even though tragic do not involve a significant number of the main stream of the Democratic Party

[rogue06]

Still valid. the Capital building seditious mob riot exceeds any act against the Union since the Civil War.

What about the 1967 March on the Pentagon with somewhere between 30,000 to 50,000 protestors, with the goal of storming the building intending to "bring the military-industrial complex to its knees"? Leaders engaged in a great deal of street theater saying they intended to levitate the building and other such There were met by military police (MPs) and soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division who sought to defend the nation’s wartime command center against the mob, but clashes soon resulted in reinforcements being called in with rifles and fixed bayonets. Some still forced there way into the building but were quickly apprehended and taken away by U.S. Marshals. Tear gas was deployed as well as rifle butts used to beat back the crowd when they started throwing rocks and bottles and kept trying force their way through. The U.S. Marshals reported making 682 arrests.

[shunyadragon]

What about the 1967 March on the Pentagon with somewhere between 30,000 to 50,000 protestors, with the goal of storming the building intending to "bring the military-industrial complex to its knees"? Leaders engaged in a great deal of street theater saying they intended to levitate the building and other such There were met by military police (MPs) and soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division who sought to defend the nation’s wartime command center against the mob, but clashes soon resulted in reinforcements being called in with rifles and fixed bayonets. Some still forced there way into the building but were quickly apprehended and taken away by U.S. Marshals. Tear gas was deployed as well as rifle butts used to beat back the crowd when they started throwing rocks and bottles and kept trying force their way through. The U.S. Marshals reported making 682 arrests.

Source, that explains as you do. and of course no, the assault on the Capital building resulted in 5 deaths, and significant destruction of property, and encouraged and cheered on by the President. Absolutely no comparison.

[shunyadragon]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...mpts-violence/

1915: Fourth of July bombing of Senate Reception Room


As the nation headed into the Fourth of July weekend in 1915, a former Harvard University professor named Erich Muenter exploded three sticks of dynamite in the Senate Reception Room. Muenter later explained that he was angry that American financiers were aiding the U.K. in World War I despite America’s official neutrality at the time. There were no injuries—the Senate was out of session—but the New York Times reported at the time that the explosion had shattered a chandelier, damaged the plaster on the room’s ceiling, and blew open doors—including one to the office of the vice president

1954: Puerto Rican nationalist attack


In 1954, long before the Capitol had higher security, including metal detectors, four Puerto Rican nationalists entered the House gallery, took out guns, and began firing indiscriminately. One waved a Puerto Rico flag. Five House members were wounded in the protest aimed at independence for the commonwealth, which the United States seized from Spain in 1898 during the Spanish-American War. The attackers served long prison terms, which were commuted by President Jimmy Carter in 1979 after an international campaign.

1971: Weather Underground bombing


The violent antiwar Weather Underground planted a bomb in a bathroom on the Senate side of the Capitol. The explosion in the early hours of March 1, 1971 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, but no casualties.

1983: Bomb goes off on the Senate side


There were no casualties either when a bomb hidden under a bench outside the Senate Chamber exploded, blowing the hinges off the door to the office of Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia. A group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit carried out the attack to protest the military's actions in Grenada and Lebanon. Seven people were charged in the attack.

Bombs in the bathrooms, no fatalities, armed nationalists is tragic, but nothing to compare to seditious home grown mob encouraged by the President with five fatalities. No comparison.