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Did Obama Secretly Pay Off Iran?
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostPlease cite when available, other than that your in the realm of conjecture and nebulous claims.
Why was the payment made in pallets of unmarked bills in foreign currency?
Why was it flown on an Iranian airline (Air Iran) that was on the Commerce Department's sanction list because it ferried IEDs and other weapons to be used against our troops, and the sanction was mysteriously lifted only one day before the "leverage"?
Where did that money come from?
Who authorized the purchase of foreign currency in that amount?
When Obama first tried explaining this, he mumbled and bumbled and took forever with his "dog ate my homework" explanation that only a dedicated leftist liberal would buy.
By the way, Obama ties this to the Iranian nuke deal. Perhaps you should warn him that's not on topic.Oh, and he claims Israel agrees that the Nuke deal was working just great, but Israel clearly disputes that.
Last edited by Cow Poke; 08-19-2016, 12:25 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Of course Obama supporters have to believe the spin. Otherwise they'd have admit the fact that this money paid to release hostages has now put all Americans abroad at risk.
What a legacy Obama is leaving office with. That it is profitable for any terrorist organizatin or foreign government to kidnap American citizens.
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Originally posted by seer View PostFirst Jim, we owe Iran NOTHING. That is all null and void since they took our people hostage (recently and back in the day under Carter). Second, a rose by any other name James... This was clearly a ransom - again Obama lied to us.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe return of Iran's money back to Iran, without interest earned mind you, was part of the nuclear deal, getting the hostages out within that context was a beautiful maneuver. You guys are going to complain no matter what Obama does anyway so its really not worth the time arguing over.
I'm sure if it had been a republican idea you'd be praising him to the high heavens. In the end, Iran got their own money back, and we got 4 Hostages back to their families.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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So US State Department issues new warning that our good friends, the Iranians, may attempt to capture US citizens for ransom.
I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I say, that paying ransoms increases the desire of Iranians to cash in.
Iran Travel Warning
Last Updated: August 22, 2016
The Department of State warns U.S. citizens of the risks of travel to Iran. This replaces the Travel Warning for Iran dated March 14, 2016, to reiterate and highlight the risk of arrest and detention of U.S. citizens, particularly dual national Iranian-Americans. Foreigners, in particular dual nationals of Iran and Western countries including the United States, continue to be detained or prevented from leaving Iran. U.S. citizens traveling to Iran should very carefully weigh the risks of travel and consider postponing their travel. U.S. citizens residing in Iran should closely follow media reports, monitor local conditions, and evaluate the risks of remaining in the country.
Iranian authorities continue to unjustly detain and imprison U.S. citizens, particularly Iranian-Americans, including students, journalists, business travelers, and academics, on charges including espionage and posing a threat to national security. Iranian authorities have also prevented the departure, in some cases for months, of a number of Iranian-American citizens who traveled to Iran for personal or professional reasons. U.S. citizens traveling to Iran should very carefully weigh the risks of travel and consider postponing their travel. U.S. citizens residing in Iran should closely follow media reports, monitor local conditions, and evaluate the risks of remaining in the country.
Perhaps the morons who negotiated the deal with Iran should have included a phrase about being nice to our people.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo US State Department issues new warning that our good friends, the Iranians, may attempt to capture US citizens for ransom.
I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I say, that paying ransoms increases the desire of Iranians to cash in.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYet, here you are.
Well, if it had been a Republican... perhaps you were still pooping green when the country was having a meltdown over Reagan's Iran Contra deal.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostLike I said CP,
if it were a Republican, you'd be praising him to the high heavens, just as you did in that real, actual, not made up, Iran Contra scandal.
You assume, falsely, that I am a Republican. I am not. I have stated so numerous times. Haven't been in quite a while. I am an independent. And I don't blindly praise somebody just because they are a particular party, like you do.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, first of all, if you said it, it was probably profoundly ignorant and misguided...
Dear Jimmy. You are a dummy. First of all, can you show ANYWHERE where I praised anybody in Iran Contra? And you don't have a CLUE what I would do. You just assume that, because you are totally incapable of finding fault with your own pinko commie liberal party, that I'm the same way with the Republicans.
You assume, falsely, that I am a Republican. I am not. I have stated so numerous times. Haven't been in quite a while. I am an independent. And I don't blindly praise somebody just because they are a particular party, like you do.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post...snowflake!The dripping irony is of biblical flood proportions, you calling someone snowflake... QUICK CP!! Get your swim gear on before it covers us all!!
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYour posts betray you snowflake!
I can't say that I blame you guys though for publicly denying your political affilliation, but then by defending their every action, it sort of gives you away.So, that's YOUR game, Jimmy.
wowThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThe dripping irony is of biblical flood proportions, you calling someone snowflake... QUICK CP!! Get your swim gear on before it covers us all!!
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I'm devastated, Bill. Got a tissue?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYour posts betray you snowflake! I can't say that I blame you guys though for publicly denying your political affilliation, but then by defending their every action, it sort of gives you away.
Originally posted by RaphaelI remember when JimL used to try and pretend to be a conservative RepublicanOriginally posted by JimLWell, I guess I was wrong, you're just lying.Originally posted by Raphaelahem:
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from here: https://web.archive.org/web/20110917...t-doesn-t-moveAttached FilesLast edited by Cow Poke; 08-24-2016, 07:23 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm devastated, Bill. Got a tissue?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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