The fruits of the Republican spirit

[Cow Poke]

How does it kill those arguments?

OK, not kill, but counter....

Compulsory taxation will raise more money than voluntary donations in the same way that conscription will increase the number of soldiers in an army. It just makes those who don't donate to the government and yet promote higher taxes look hypocritical.

Well, sure, but it shows their hypocrisy. If tax revenue is SO important, they can 'prime the pump', so to speak. Instead, they probably have lawyers and accountants helping them to pay as little as possible.

[stfoskey15]

OK, not kill, but counter....

Well, sure, but it shows their hypocrisy. If tax revenue is SO important, they can 'prime the pump', so to speak. Instead, they probably have lawyers and accountants helping them to pay as little as possible.

Fair enough.

[stfoskey15]

Can you just write them a check? Do they accept donations?
I have some money I'm thinking about giving away, maybe I should give it to NASA.

Apparently I can't actually donate directly to NASA. I tried sending them a check and got my check back along with a form letter back saying they don't accept donations.

[Cow Poke]

Apparently I can't actually donate directly to NASA. I tried sending them a check and got my check back along with a form letter back saying they don't accept donations.

Send it to me. I'll take care of it.

OR, as I stated earlier...

Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782

[JimL]

First of all, Obama knows exactly what he's doing. I know the left and the right wants to pretend this isn't true, but it is. And I don't intend on getting into the whole subject of warmongering; I was just using that as just one example of many that the political left uses sociopolitical rhetoric and nothing more.

Obama is trying to deal with a situation in the middle east that he inherited, not that he started, nor would he have started. You criticize him for rethinking his "red line" comment and not going to war in Syria, though he got them to give up their chemical weapons, you criticize him for trying to wind down the wars in Iraq, and Afgahnistan, for avoiding war with Iran by negotiation and sanctions, and then you turn around and call him a war monger. Its republicans that wanted to go to war in all of those situations, and want still to go to war with Iran. Just like with the economy, republicans make a mess of things, leave the mess for the democrats to clean up, and then blame the whole mess on them.

[JimL]

'Pay lip service to' might be more accurate than 'acknowledge'. Of the top 20 wealthiest members of Congress, 11 are Democrats, 9 Republicans. However, 8 of the top 10 are Democrats.

You are mistaking wealth for principle. Democrats, liberals, progressives, have no more of a problem with wealth, or wealthy people, than do republican conservatives, what we have a problem with is their political agendas which basically says to hell with the less fortunate, the have nots. The sad part is that the politicians and their propagandists have tricked a large sect of christians into supporting them by using social issues that they themselves really couldn't care any less about.

[Cow Poke]

...what we have a problem with is their political agendas which basically says to hell with the less fortunate, the have nots....

What a stinkin' pile of horsie poo.

[Cow Poke]

Obama is trying to deal with a situation in the middle east that he inherited...

Lemme help ya, Jimmy. "Blame Bush".

[Starlight]

What a stinkin' pile of horsie poo.

I have no problem believing that you personally have compassion for the poor, or that you're a charitable person. I just think you don't fully realize how much right-wing political parties make it their business to hurt the poor and benefit the rich. I think a lot of Republican voters in the US don't pay close attention to the policies their congressmen and senators are voting for, and don't realize the extent to which screwing over the poor is a core part of the agenda being pushed by the party. Insofar as they do spot it happening, they rationalize it to themselves with sayings like "people need to take personal responsibility", "the rich are job-creators" etc. These things lead to people like you who personally care about the poor supporting political parties whose agenda is to hurt the poor.

[Tassman]

What a stinkin' pile of horsie poo.

CP, your debating style is unmatched.

[Bill the Cat]

I have no problem believing that you personally have compassion for the poor, or that you're a charitable person. I just think you don't fully realize how much right-wing political parties make it their business to hurt the poor and benefit the rich. I think a lot of Republican voters in the US don't pay close attention to the policies their congressmen and senators are voting for, and don't realize the extent to which screwing over the poor is a core part of the agenda being pushed by the party. Insofar as they do spot it happening, they rationalize it to themselves with sayings like "people need to take personal responsibility", "the rich are job-creators" etc. These things lead to people like you who personally care about the poor supporting political parties whose agenda is to hurt the poor.

Depends on who gets the honor of defining what "hurt" is. I consider the left's sprint to generational poverty and government dependence far more hurtful than any Republican policy.

[Cow Poke]

CP, your debating style is unmatched.

JimL amened you, so....

[Cow Poke]

I have no problem believing that you personally have compassion for the poor, or that you're a charitable person. I just think you don't fully realize how much right-wing political parties make it their business to hurt the poor and benefit the rich.

Meanwhile, liberals run places like Chicago where people don't just get hurt - they get dead, and in large numbers.