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What should a married Christian do when not ready to have children?
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Originally posted by Ana Dragule View PostWhat should a married Christian do when not ready to have children? Or I suppose anyone really if they are married and not in a position to have kids at the time?
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I haven't posted in a while, and this may be off topic. If so, I apologize. I take issue with the idea that the primary purpose of marriage is to produce children. While having children is ONE purpose of marriage, it is not the sole or even primary purpose. The primary purpose of marriage is to teach us. It is, IMHO, the closest we can get to understanding the Trinity. Two persons living as one. The Bible doesn't use this idea on accident. The relationship between husband and wife bears a striking similarity to the relationship of the Father and the Son. Additionally, it prepares us and helps us understand what it means to be the Bride of Christ. Marriage is about relationship, childbearing is a secondary benefit.
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Originally posted by Alsharad View PostI haven't posted in a while, and this may be off topic. If so, I apologize. I take issue with the idea that the primary purpose of marriage is to produce children... Additionally, it prepares us and helps us understand what it means to be the Bride of Christ. Marriage is about relationship, childbearing is a secondary benefit.
Marriage creates a special relationship, yes, but the relationship is primarily for the children.
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Originally posted by Alsharad View PostI haven't posted in a while, and this may be off topic. If so, I apologize. I take issue with the idea that the primary purpose of marriage is to produce children. While having children is ONE purpose of marriage, it is not the sole or even primary purpose. The primary purpose of marriage is to teach us. It is, IMHO, the closest we can get to understanding the Trinity. Two persons living as one. The Bible doesn't use this idea on accident. The relationship between husband and wife bears a striking similarity to the relationship of the Father and the Son. Additionally, it prepares us and helps us understand what it means to be the Bride of Christ. Marriage is about relationship, childbearing is a secondary benefit.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Clearly paprika has never read theology of the body. The marital family has many function s primitively woman created so that man should not have to live alone. But you also have misunderstanding of Catholicism on appropriate marriage sexuality between a husband and wife the appropriate planning and spacing of children by using natural methods and the recognition of marriages that are made in later years parents who cannot or for circumstances or vocational reasons do not have children but choose other ways to serve. Catholicism recognizes marriage with or without children sacramental and understands that conjugating need not result in children in all circumstances for all people. Some can some can't. Older couples or couples with children from previous marriage may not be able to have children any more and are fine in their circumstances. I suggest that you have misunderstood the position of the Church entirely. Read about marriage reproduction the natural spacing of children and sexuality between spouses. Start with the Catechism.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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I haven't read Theology of the Body either (but it's on my shelf, waiting patiently to be read).Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostClearly paprika has never read theology of the body... I suggest that you have misunderstood the position of the Church entirely. Read about marriage reproduction the natural spacing of children and sexuality between spouses. Start with the Catechism. Start with the Catechism.
If you do disagree with the position I am setting forth you are free to demonstrate how it is wrong.
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Nothing uncomfortable, Pap, just old hat.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostWhich is incidentally the benefit that allows for the propagation of the species.
Marriage creates a special relationship, yes, but the relationship is primarily for the children.
Originally posted by SpartacusThere is more to this view of sentimentality than of sacramentality. Marriage is not sacramental primarily because a relationship of self-giving love images the Trinity. There is no clear reason under this view that the norms of exclusivity, heterosexuality, etc., should apply, not least since we are to love one another (not just our spouses) as Christ loved us.
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Originally posted by Alsharad View PostScripture paints a pretty clear picture of who qualifies to be married. It is sacred because it was ordained by God as such. In any case, this isn't a long-winded explanation, I wanted to object to the statement that marriage is about having and raising children. I am not really concerned that a one-paragraph idea didn't fully explain or make a compelling case for the biblical standards of marriage. It was simply an idea (and a rough one at that) that I threw out against a statement that seems wrong in my experience and in my understanding of scripture.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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