Apparently you don't like IRL experience or The idea that the Bible has something to say about covering up.....poor thing. And I'm sure you hate hearing it coming from a woman.
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostApparently you don't like IRL experience or The idea that the Bible has something to say about covering up.....poor thing. And I'm sure you hate hearing it coming from a woman.
I love hearing it coming from you.....makes me more appreciative as to where I currently live.Last edited by foudroyant; 06-07-2014, 10:47 PM.
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Originally posted by Cerealman View PostWhen Adam and Eve were innocent they were naked and cared/knew nothing of it, but when they fell he gave them clothing for a reason.
During time and later it was the pagans who decided it was okay to be naked naturally not God/jews/non-nudist Christians(during that time).
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Originally posted by Cerealman View PostThere are proper and wrong times to have your shirt off,and once again that's not the definition of nudity.
What SPECIFICALLY are the "proper" times for a man to have his shirt off?
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostHe gave them clothing. Sin now entered into the world. It was gracious that God did this. Thorns and thistles would now grow and this clothing would protect them from these kinds od things. I'm not sure if there was a mosquito problem before the Fall but clothing would be helpful against that - indeed, against the cold as well.
So no clothing wouldn't be a problem for stop mosquito's?
God clothed because they knew of their nakedness and shame not because he was worried about some bug bite/thorns. Do you know the cloth they wore back then? It would hardly stop a thorn/bug bite anyway.
Once again the bible goes against nudity and often had ties with shame pretty clearly in the bible."Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
"And the Devil did grin, for his darling sin is pride that apes humility"-Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Oh ye of little fiber. Do you not know what I've done for you? You will obey. ~Cerealman for Prez.
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostIf a woman walked around most anywhere in public in the USA and she was topless she wouldn't be arrested for this?
What SPECIFICALLY are the "proper" times for a man to have his shirt off?
Proper times for me include football practice,at home, at the pool,etc.
You really aren't presenting a good case for nudity something the bible is clearly against."Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
"And the Devil did grin, for his darling sin is pride that apes humility"-Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Oh ye of little fiber. Do you not know what I've done for you? You will obey. ~Cerealman for Prez.
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We heard nothing about these problems before the fall. Animal skins would be thick enough to prevent a mosquito from biting through it and a good protection against the cold.
If something is a sin then it is incumbent upon those that claim so to prove their point. So where is the evidence that it is?Last edited by foudroyant; 06-07-2014, 10:55 PM.
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostWe heard nothing about these problems before the fall. Animal skins would be thick enough to prevent a mosquito from biting through it and a good protection against the cold.
If something is a sin then it is incumbent upon those that claim so to prove their point. So where is the evidence that it is?
Nudity and shamed is tied in together:
Genesis 9:21; Exodus 20:26; 32:25; 2 Chronicles 28:19; Isaiah 47:3; Ezekiel 16:35-36; Luke 8:27; Revelation 3:17; 16:15; 17:16
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christia...#ixzz3415oSpTa"Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
"And the Devil did grin, for his darling sin is pride that apes humility"-Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Oh ye of little fiber. Do you not know what I've done for you? You will obey. ~Cerealman for Prez.
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostWe heard nothing about these problems before the fall. Animal skins would be thick enough to prevent a mosquito from biting through it and a good protection against the cold.
If something is a sin then it is incumbent upon those that claim so to prove their point. So where is the evidence that it is?
Same goes for mosquitos.
Are you going to assume God created these things after the fall?What do you proof of to say they are bad?And don't even try the whole mosquito can spread disease so can humans.
Thorns protect roses and mosquitos need blood to survive.Last edited by Cerealman; 06-07-2014, 11:02 PM."Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
"And the Devil did grin, for his darling sin is pride that apes humility"-Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Oh ye of little fiber. Do you not know what I've done for you? You will obey. ~Cerealman for Prez.
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Not to say I'd let a mosquito bite me but the facts are facts."Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
"And the Devil did grin, for his darling sin is pride that apes humility"-Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Oh ye of little fiber. Do you not know what I've done for you? You will obey. ~Cerealman for Prez.
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostWhile coming very close to being a Christian Nudist...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Foud, in my experience, if one has has to ask if soemthing is wrong, it's a sure bet it's wrong for one.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by Cerealman View PostEzekiel 16:35-36
Where nudity is forbidden
Despite the aforementioned beliefs, there are three areas in which Christian naturists may feel nudity is condemned by the Bible:[29]
Where it is forced on a person against their will (e.g. prisoners). God did not strip Adam and Eve of their fig leaves leaving them naked, but rather made them garments from animal skin.
When associated directly with sin (orgies, temple prostitution, etc.) or indecent exposure (in the modern sense). In particular, situations where a person has willingly undressed causing surprise and shock to those not expecting such an encounter. (Some indecent exposure laws may be considered as too stringent, however.)
Where people are suffering from the lack of food, clothing, and shelter. The need for clothing could be due to a cold climate, hostile environment, and/or cultural necessity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nudismhttp://www.studylight.org/commentari...gi?bk=22&ch=47
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Why don't you choose just one passage in which you think is the strongest example for your position?
You can also address these:
1. Saul was prophesying a day and a night naked with no shame (1 Samuel 19:24). The same Hebrew word occurs in Genesis 2:25 and Job 1:21 and Ecclesiastes 5:15.
2. Isaiah 20:2-3 - God does not command what He condemns.Last edited by foudroyant; 06-08-2014, 12:05 AM.
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View PostFoud, in my experience, if one has has to ask if soemthing is wrong, it's a sure bet it's wrong for one.Last edited by foudroyant; 06-08-2014, 12:08 AM.
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