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2015 looking like another world record year for the global warming trend.

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  • #91
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    So let's see, I present facts, you present a genetic fallacy.
    You didn't present facts.

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    • #92
      Preliminary June data is in with some over all interpretation of 2015 data in relation with recent temperature data.

      Source: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/08/global-temperature-report-june-2015-warm-tropics-not-much-change-globally/



      Global Temperature Report: June 2015, warm tropics, not much change globally

      Anthony Watts / 1 week ago July 8, 2015


      In the tropics, 2nd warmest month since 2010

      JUNE2015_mapGlobal climate trend since Nov. 16, 1978: +0.11 C per decade.

      June temperatures (preliminary)

      Global composite temp.: +0.33 C (about 0.59 degrees Fahrenheit) above 30-year average for June.
      Northern Hemisphere: +0.40 C (about 0.72 degrees Fahrenheit) above 30-year average for June.
      Southern Hemisphere: +0.26 C (about 0.47 degrees Fahrenheit) above 30-year average for June.
      Tropics: +0.46 C (about 0.83 degrees Fahrenheit) above 30-year average for May.
      May temperatures (revised):

      Global Composite: +0.27 C above 30-year average
      Northern Hemisphere: +0.33 C above 30-year average
      Southern Hemisphere: +0.21 C below 30-year average
      Tropics: +0.27 C above 30-year average

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      http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/0...ange-globally/
      Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-16-2015, 09:34 AM.

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        • #94
          This is most likely true.

          Source: http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v4/n2/full/nclimate2100.html



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          http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journ...imate2100.html

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          • #95
            "Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."

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            • #96
              Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-surge-in-heat-wave-danger-days-is-expected-in-coming-decades-infographic/?WT.mc_id=SA_DD_20150813



              A Surge in Heat Wave "Danger Days" Is Expected in Coming Decades

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              • #97
                That much of an increase in danger days that quickly baffles me.

                What is especially odd is that places that are reasonably mild in the summer, like Charleston, WV and Asheville, NC will supposedly have more danger days than Savannah, GA, Houston, TX, and Jackson, MS.

                Summers have been warming somewhat, but a quick check at my area shows that the 1981-2010 average highs are only ~1.5 F (0.8 C) warmer in summer than for the same period from 1951-1980.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by stfoskey15 View Post
                  That much of an increase in danger days that quickly baffles me.

                  What is especially odd is that places that are reasonably mild in the summer, like Charleston, WV and Asheville, NC will supposedly have more danger days than Savannah, GA, Houston, TX, and Jackson, MS.

                  Summers have been warming somewhat, but a quick check at my area shows that the 1981-2010 average highs are only ~1.5 F (0.8 C) warmer in summer than for the same period from 1951-1980.
                  Your data is too limited: (1) Need to include 2011 to 2014. 2015 is at present the hottest on record including the July data. (2) The global warming trend is over a longer period of time then the data you selected and over a wider region, the nation and the world. (3) Averages may not tell the whole picture, but there nonetheless remains an increase in this period despite the limits of your data reference. (4) To be accurate you have to consider a larger region and more cities. (5) The data then needs to extrapolated to national and world data. (6) The increase into the danger zone for a larger number of days does not need a very large increase in the average temperature to happen.
                  Last edited by shunyadragon; 08-14-2015, 11:06 PM.

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                  • #99
                    Yup - a few more years of this and temperatures will reach the same levels as prevailed during the 1st Century AD - about 1 degree C below those of the 5th Century AD, and roughly 2 below those of the 6th century BC. Right now, they're a shade below the 3000 year average.
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                    • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                      Yup - a few more years of this and temperatures will reach the same levels as prevailed during the 1st Century AD - about 1 degree C below those of the 5th Century AD, and roughly 2 below those of the 6th century BC. Right now, they're a shade below the 3000 year average.
                      Source?? The Onion?

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                      • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                        Source?? The Onion?
                        Hardly: clim4-8.gif

                        This is only one of many reports that have come out in the past few years.
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                        but that won't prevent others from
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                        of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                        • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                          Hardly: [ATTACH=CONFIG]8833[/ATTACH]
                          This is only one of many reports that have come out in the past few years.
                          What is the source? How was this data collected and estimated?

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                          • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                            Hardly: [ATTACH=CONFIG]8833[/ATTACH]

                            This is only one of many reports that have come out in the past few years.
                            Click on the word "reports" to access the full report.
                            There is no denying that there has been and continues to be continual global warming, and at an accelerating rate. However, that warming has been in progress since the mini-ice age of the 1700s. So - global warming is real, but the role played by human activity is over-stated.

                            The black line on the graph below (between the 1400s and 1700s) is a mirror image taken from the 1700s to present section of the graph, flipped horizontally, and superimposed on the 1400s to 1700s section - for the purposes of comparison. The intersection of the curved red lines extending below the temperature readings marks the point where that section of the graph was flipped.
                            CLIMATE GRAPH.jpg

                            ETA

                            The recent "hiatus" in global warming proved, as was only to be expected, .... incorrect.
                            Last edited by tabibito; 08-15-2015, 07:53 AM.
                            1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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                            Scripture before Tradition:
                            but that won't prevent others from
                            taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                            of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                            • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                              Click on the word "reports" to access the full report.
                              There is no denying that there has been and continues to be continual global warming, and at an accelerating rate. However, that warming has been in progress since the mini-ice age of the 1700s. So - global warming is real, but the role played by human activity is over-stated.

                              The black line on the graph below (between the 1400s and 1700s) is a mirror image taken from the 1700s to present section of the graph, flipped horizontally, and superimposed on the 1400s to 1700s section - for the purposes of comparison. The intersection of the curved red lines extending below the temperature readings marks the point where that section of the graph was flipped.
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]8835[/ATTACH]

                              ETA

                              The recent "hiatus" in global warming proved, as was only to be expected, .... incorrect.
                              Putting this in a more complete context of the reference helps. But the extra lines on the graph do not necessarily the the projected expected future trend of the data.

                              Actually nothing is proven in this case nor any case involving science. Actually, global warming due to human influence is not proven either, but it is the most likely explanation

                              Your missing a significant detail. If you follow the larger scale cycle we should be in a cooling trend toward another Ice Age, but after the little Ice Age this trend did not continue. In the Twentieth Century we entered a warming trend that did not fit the expected cooling trend.
                              Last edited by shunyadragon; 08-15-2015, 06:23 PM.

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                              • July data is in and it remains the hottest month and year on record

                                Source: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/13/uah-global-temperature-report-july-2015-the-pause-continues/

                                http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0beta/tlt
                                Mid-Troposphere: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0beta/tmt
                                Tropopause: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0beta/ttp
                                Lower Stratosphere: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0beta/tls

                                Notes on data released Aug. 12, 2015:

                                The tropics continued to warm in July, although the areas between the tropics and both the Arctic and Antarctic regions cooled from June, said Dr. John Christy, director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville.

                                Compared to seasonal norms, the warmest average temperature anomaly on Earth in July was in southeastern Kazakhstan near the city of Almaty. The July temperature there averaged 3.33 C (about 6.0 degrees F) warmer than seasonal norms. Compared to seasonal norms, the coolest average temperature on Earth in July was in the northern Atlantic Ocean off the southeastern coast of Greenland, where the average July 2015 temperature was 3.77 C (about 6.77 degrees F) cooler than normal.

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                                The complete version 6 beta lower troposphere dataset is available here:

                                http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu...dc_lt_6.0beta2
                                Archived color maps of local temperature anomalies are available on-line at:
                                http://nsstc.uah.edu/climate/

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