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Why Pluto Is a Planet, and Eris Is Too
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Why Pluto Is a Planet, and Eris Is Too
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
And this: "If you're standing in the bottom of the Grand Canyon, the Earth isn't even close to nearly round" is ridiculous.
Edited to add: Also, he doesn't seem to know that Ceres has also pulled itself into a spherical shape, despite being smaller than his 1000km radius criterion, nor that the size at which gravity will pull an object spherical is dependent on the composition of the object, since gravitational pull will vary by density.
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This is why we need to blow Pluto up. Once that ball of ice is reduced to snowflakes, this whole pointless discussion of whether its a planet or not will finally be put to rest."When the Western world accepted Christianity, Caesar conquered; and the received text of Western theology was edited by his lawyers…. The brief Galilean vision of humility flickered throughout the ages, uncertainly…. But the deeper idolatry, of the fashioning of God in the image of the Egyptian, Persian, and Roman imperial rulers, was retained. The Church gave unto God the attributes which belonged exclusively to Caesar."
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Pluto is a planet because it was a planet when I learned the names of all the planets. Eris was not on that list so it is not a planet.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIndeed, the only definitive part of the IAU resolution on which everyone can agree is the first part: (1) A planet is in orbit around the sun. It's why the moon is not a planet. My 6-year-old niece intuitively understands this.
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Originally posted by Duragizer View PostThis is why we need to blow Pluto up. Once that ball of ice is reduced to snowflakes, this whole pointless discussion of whether its a planet or not will finally be put to rest."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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Interesting bit about the erraticness in the orbit of some of Pluto's moons: Chaotic orbital interactions keep flipping Pluto’s moons
NASA describes them as " "wobbl[ing] unpredictably." The New Horizons spacecraft is due to fly by next month and should provide a lot of new inflrmation.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI'm not convinced by some-one who doesn't seem to know why the Trojan asteroids haven't been cleared out of Jupiter's orbit,
or that roundness is a relative measure and thus independent of scale.
And this: "If you're standing in the bottom of the Grand Canyon, the Earth isn't even close to nearly round" is ridiculous.
Edited to add: Also, he doesn't seem to know that Ceres has also pulled itself into a spherical shape, despite being smaller than his 1000km radius criterion, nor that the size at which gravity will pull an object spherical is dependent on the composition of the object, since gravitational pull will vary by density.
RoyEnter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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After more detailed reading:
Originally posted by Tim DeBenedictis*Nearly round shape.
The biggest problem with the IAU's planet definition is that it replaces an already-ambiguous concept ("What is a planet?") with three more ambiguous concepts, ("nearly round," "cleared" and "neighborhood").
I submit that the precise definition of a planet as an object with a radius of at least 1,000 km is no less scientific than the definition of a kilometer as being a unit of distance equal to 1,000 m, or a degree being 1/360 of a circle.
And there are other reasons why the 1,000-km definition is more scientific than it might seem at first....The 1,000-km radius just happens to describe something that naturally takes place for objects of a certain size and results in what we all intuitively want a planet to look like.Last edited by Paprika; 06-06-2015, 04:15 PM.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostPlease point out to me where he spoke in absolute terms that would exclude Ceres. He's speaking in generalities as far as I can tell.
(1) A "planet" [1] is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the sun, and (b) has a maximum surface radius greater than 1,000 km (620 miles)...
Object Radii (km)
Ceres: 475 (295 miles)
By the 1,000-km definition, all eight classical planets would remain planets. So would Pluto. And we'd add Eris. The solar system would have exactly 10 planetsLast edited by Paprika; 06-06-2015, 04:19 PM.
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