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Is the Theory of Evolution a religion?
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostWow, Jorge says that evolutionary theory is not a religion
and yet you still blast him as if he said it was. I don't think he should be said to have "delusions" in this thread. If anything it's your post displaying what appear to be "delusions".
I would be perfectly willing to take the position that rogue06's points are NOT delusional, and that dismissing them all wholesale without a single substantive response is if not delusional at the very least worthless. And yet, here you are defending Jorge rather than rogue06. I admit I can't help drawing some inferences from this.
Meanwhile, I eagerly await Jorge's dissertation on information theory. I'll be especially interested in which peers review it before publication.
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Originally posted by phank View PostWow, Jorge says that evolutionary theory is not a religion
RoyLast edited by Roy; 01-31-2014, 07:03 PM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Wally View PostActually, the answer depends on how you define religion.
Most people casually think of religion as "the worshiping of a deity"
If you distort the definition enough, you end up with things like Scientology being defined as a religion.
I think this is the definition Jorge and his ilk use.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostWow, Jorge says that evolutionary theory is not a religion, and yet you still blast him as if he said it was. I don't think he should be said to have "delusions" in this thread. If anything it's your post displaying what appear to be "delusions".Originally posted by Jorge"But to many it is undoubtedly a PART of their religious position."
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostActually, by almost any accepted definitions scientology would be a religion regardless of one's personal opinion of the belief. The problem is with calling 'Science (Scientism???)' a religion, which does not fit any of the accepted definitions of religion in the English language.
It's actually very bad pop psychology, if you really stretch the definition, it might qualify as a philosophy, but that's my point, the definition of religion for most people involves a deity.
Maybe it would be more accurate to say a superstition and non-superstition, but that, even though accurate, sounds disrespectful to those who read more in to the descriptions that the literal."The Lord loves a working man, don't trust whitey, see a doctor and get rid of it."
Navin R. Johnson
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostPlease note J**** said,
In and of itself, the Theory of Evolution (ToE) is not a religion. However, for a great many people the ToE does undoubtedly serve a major role - a major part - in their religion. As one example, what would Atheism-Humanism be without the ToE? Dawkins himself said (paraphrasing) : "Darwin (i.e., Darwinism ... the ToE) makes it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled Atheist." That statement implies, of course, that before the ToE an Atheist was not and could not be intellectually fulfilled.
But it is not the same to be a part of a religion than being a religion on its own. You need to improve your basic logic skills, dragon.
?Comprende?
Jorge
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostHe also applied it to theistic, and deistic religious stances.
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Originally posted by phank View PostYes, as I said. He regards faith in evolution as a part of a list of religious positions different from his own. Pretty clearly, he casts the theory of evolution in religious and not scientific terms.
RoyJorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Wally View PostIt's actually very bad pop psychology, if you really stretch the definition, it might qualify as a philosophy, but that's my point, the definition of religion for most people involves a deity.
Originally posted by http://www.thefreedictionary.com/religion1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. 2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order. 3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostYeah - just like I think of transsubstantiation and the planet Kolob in religous terms. They too are part of religious positions, but they are definitely not religions.
Roy
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