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James Tour gets to debate origin-of-life chemist!
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostTours appears to have said that he's had several discussions and one would hope that in at least one instance that he'd possess the common sense to have actually asked one...
And this was about his claim that "no scientist alive today understands macroevolution" which isn't concerned with the origin of life since all biological evolution takes place after life has already first arisen -- regardless of how it arose.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostHe has talked about biologists' papers and points, and has presumably talked with biologists, and this is the first biologist who was willing to discuss origin-of-life with him.
Blessings,
Lee
There is a problem with hypothesis that [rp[pse the negative as to why something cannot happen or it is unlikely.
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostCan you please not argue by posting a link?
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When will creationists (and with that I also mean the ID community) understand that abiogenesis and evolution are separate fields, and the second doesn't depend on the first? Seriously, it's like saying the same thing 100.000 times over.
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostCan you please not argue by posting a link?"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostNo, he's saying that origin-of-life researchers are vastly inflating their claims.
No, he is not arguing for the negative, he is not saying how life originated, he is only saying we don't know.
Blessings,
Lee
Again . . .
He has presented no published papers where he consulted with biologists or geneticists concerning his hypothesis. What research has he published to support his hypothesis?
There is a problem with hypothesis that propose the negative as to why something cannot happen or it is unlikely.Last edited by shunyadragon; 03-29-2020, 08:31 AM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThere is a problem with hypothesis that propose the negative as to why something cannot happen or it is unlikely.
Blessings,
LeeLast edited by lee_merrill; 03-29-2020, 12:07 PM."What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostI've asked you multiple times to stop making arguments when you have no idea what you're talking about. You've been rather persistent in ignoring that request.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View PostPosting links to support points made is perfectly acceptable at TWeb.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostBut you haven't made any points,
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostI'm talking about talks and books addressed to the general public, and I do have an idea what the arguments are. Did you watch the debate, and do you have a comment on it?"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View PostOf course I have and I provided support too. Just none you're honest enough to acknowledge.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostI was referring to you activities in the other thread you were participating, where you claimed to know something about gene regulation, but were clearly just making stuff up.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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