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  • The have found another Goldilocks world!

    They found an earth'like planet, but its a little far for us to get there in one life time.


    Source: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/newly-discovered-exoplanet-is-close-to-earth



    THIS NEWLY DISCOVERED EXOPLANET IS TANTALIZINGLY CLOSE TO EARTH... WELL, RELATIVELY SPEAKING

    © Copyright Original Source


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    "earthlike" " 5,600 degrees Fahrenheit"

    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
      "earthlike" " 5,600 degrees Fahrenheit"

      That's the temperature of the star the planet is orbiting. Which is significant because that's 56% the temperature of our own sun. The Stefan-Boltzmann law states that the heat irradiating from a blackbody is proportional to the temperature to the fourth power, so that means it gives off only 10% of the heat our own sun does. The star is also a lot smaller.

      So even though this planet is a lot closer to than star, than the Earth is to the sun, it might not have a wild temperature. It just means that red dwarf stars have a goldilock zone much closer to them.

      The bigger problem is the amount of ionizing radiation it would be experiencing. That could be problematic, and might just keep those planets sterilized.

      Update:

      Here's the source article https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0220130456.htm

      The calculated temperature of the planet at that distance is 319K +/- 28K
      Last edited by Leonhard; 03-01-2020, 05:07 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
        That's the temperature of the star the planet is orbiting. Which is significant because that's 56% the temperature of our own sun. The Stefan-Boltzmann law states that the heat irradiating from a blackbody is proportional to the temperature to the fourth power, so that means it gives off only 10% of the heat our own sun does. The star is also a lot smaller.

        So even though this planet is a lot closer to than star, than the Earth is to the sun, it might not have a wild temperature. It just means that red dwarf stars have a goldilock zone much closer to them.

        The bigger problem is the amount of ionizing radiation it would be experiencing. That could be problematic, and might just keep those planets sterilized.

        Update:

        Here's the source article https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0220130456.htm

        The calculated temperature of the planet at that distance is 319K +/- 28K
        Thank you for the reference.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          They found an earth'like planet, but its a little far for us to get there in one life time.


          Source: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/newly-discovered-exoplanet-is-close-to-earth



          THIS NEWLY DISCOVERED EXOPLANET IS TANTALIZINGLY CLOSE TO EARTH... WELL, RELATIVELY SPEAKING

          © Copyright Original Source

          Even at a speed of 300 miles per minute, or 18,000 MPH, it would take over 3 million years to get there, so, other than scientific curiosity, I don't see the point.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
            That's the temperature of the star the planet is orbiting. Which is significant because that's 56% the temperature of our own sun. The Stefan-Boltzmann law states that the heat irradiating from a blackbody is proportional to the temperature to the fourth power, so that means it gives off only 10% of the heat our own sun does. The star is also a lot smaller.

            So even though this planet is a lot closer to than star, than the Earth is to the sun, it might not have a wild temperature. It just means that red dwarf stars have a goldilock zone much closer to them.

            The bigger problem is the amount of ionizing radiation it would be experiencing. That could be problematic, and might just keep those planets sterilized.

            Update:

            Here's the source article https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0220130456.htm

            The calculated temperature of the planet at that distance is 319K +/- 28K
            The article quoted in the OP does say the surface of the planet is 5600 degrees. Is that a mistake?
            Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
              The article quoted in the OP does say the surface of the planet is 5600 degrees. Is that a mistake?
              Yes, That is a mistake. I always go directly to the sources, journalists usually get it wrong..

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                Yes, That is a mistake. I always go directly to the sources, journalists usually get it wrong..
                Ok, thanks for clarifying. I thought that was awfully hot for a planet orbiting a red dwarf.
                And yeah, I think they need to have journalists with at least some scientific training be the ones to cover stories like this.
                Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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                • #9
                  Journalists rarely have any relevant training on any topic. Remember the Gell-Man effect:

                  Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                  • #10
                    science-news-cycle.jpg

                    I'm always still in trouble again

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                      Yes, That is a mistake. I always go directly to the sources, journalists usually get it wrong..
                      Just a further caution, Science Daily is an aggregator of press releases, not a scientific source. While most universities try to make sure their press releases are accurate, there have been some rather dramatic exceptions. Plus they are under no obligations to present the caveats, limitations, etc. of the underlying research.

                      If you can find the paper, the abstract is almost always better than the press release.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Even at a speed of 300 miles per minute, or 18,000 MPH, it would take over 3 million years to get there, so, other than scientific curiosity, I don't see the point.
                        Things don't need to have a practical application to be interesting. Where's your sense of scientific curiosity?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheLurch View Post
                          Just a further caution, Science Daily is an aggregator of press releases, not a scientific source. While most universities try to make sure their press releases are accurate, there have been some rather dramatic exceptions. Plus they are under no obligations to present the caveats, limitations, etc. of the underlying research.

                          If you can find the paper, the abstract is almost always better than the press release.
                          Usually at the end of the Science Daily article they'll have a link to the University Press release or the Abstract (and sometimes, the full paper).

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                            Things don't need to have a practical application to be interesting. Where's your sense of scientific curiosity?
                            Oh I find it interesting alright, but to suggest that 540 trillion miles away is tantalizingly close to the earth is a bit much. I'm of the belief that in the vast 4 billion light year expanse of this universes there is likely many such exoplanets capable of supporting life out there.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Usually at the end of the Science Daily article they'll have a link to the University Press release or the Abstract (and sometimes, the full paper).
                              Typically, they're just republishing the press release verbatim. But yes, a link to the paper is helpful when available.
                              "Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."

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