If you argued that they believe it because it is true, that is a different thing altogether. But you have been arguing it is true because they all believe it. And that I should believe it because they do.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf you argued that they believe it because it is true, that is a different thing altogether. But you have been arguing it is true because they all believe it. And that I should believe it because they do.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNo. I argued that the vast majority of scientists worldwide believed global warming was occurring on the basis of facts, such as the statistical distribution of weather patterns over an extended period of time...and much else.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, what about the ninety-seven percent of climate scientists, who agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide, which have issued public statements endorsing this position.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHow does that invalidate what I said?
You made the false assertion that it was the definition of consensus.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo you didn't. You argued I should believe it because 97% of climate scientists believed it:
https://climate.nasa.gov/
Why are you so opposed to the fact of global warming given that the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous? You have yet to answer this oft repeated question. Surely you are not one of those who think that the dramatic climate changes are a sign of the 'end times' and that Jesus is on his way?
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe over whelming consensus of scientists is based on years of research based on objective verifiable evidence. Why should you not believe it?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe reason 97% of climate scientists believe in global warming is because of facts, such as the statistical distribution of weather patterns over an extended period of time...and much else as previously linked numerous times.
https://climate.nasa.gov/
Why are you so opposed to the fact of global warming given that the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous? You have yet to answer this oft repeated question. Surely you are not one of those who think that the dramatic climate changes are a sign of the 'end times' and that Jesus is on his way?
The evidence should stand alone, regardless of who believes it or not. The consensus doesn't matter. It is a byproduct.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBut that is not what you argued, as I showed you. You never argued that they believed it BECAUSE of the evidence. You argued I should believe the evidence because they believed it.
The evidence should stand alone, regardless of who believes it or not. The consensus doesn't matter. It is a byproduct.
You did not explain why you are so skeptical of global warming given that, if true as is probable, the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI never said I shouldn't. But I would be believing the evidence, not believing it was true merely because a group of scientists said it was. Which was what Tassman argued.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI never argued that we "should believe the evidence because they believed it". I almost always provided a link to NASA with the evidence of Climate Change and Global Warming given in some detail.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, what about the ninety-seven percent of climate scientists, who agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide, which have issued public statements endorsing this position.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postahem,
Do you think you can just keep ignoring what you actually said and gaslight me into thinking otherwise?
Again, you have not explained why you are so skeptical of global warming given that if true, as is probable, the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostContext, dear boy, context! Did you not notice my links from scientific sources that support man-made global warming with considerable evidence.
Again, you have not explained why you are so skeptical of global warming given that if true, as is probable, the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous?
In fact you did the very same thing to One Bad Pig:
Originally posted by Tassman View Post97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agreehttps://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/Last edited by Sparko; 01-10-2019, 08:03 AM.
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