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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostNo. They were hardly deemed worthy of note by the ruling class of the time and there is very little writings from that time still extant today. It would actually be a shock if we still had some record from such sources.
Think of it this way... The majority of the great plays from ancient times are known to us only by title in spite of being copied again and again so that they can be performed in different cities and towns. The same is true with the books written by Roman Emperors which would have been copied over and over and sent throughout the Empire.
So why should it be a problem that we don't have mention of the apostles in sources that cared little about such things?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, your reason for believing the supernatural stories in the bible are derived of the bible. Lol."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, your reason for believing the supernatural stories in the bible are derived of the bible. Lol.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostDo you believe the Gallic Wars occurred?Last edited by Tassman; 07-24-2017, 10:37 PM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo actually YOU illustrate that very well. It is a passage that shows that what you have is willful ignorance.I think when you are actually confronted with God you will fall down on your knees and start begging for forgiveness)
Actually, I would cogently argue with your mythical god that he cannot possibly exist and he will disappear in a puff of logic.Last edited by Tassman; 07-24-2017, 11:08 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo, your reason for believing the supernatural stories in the bible are derived of the bible. Lol.
The bible is not one book. it is a collection of books written over thousands of years. It has a lot more than stories. It has verified history. It has prophesies in earlier books that have been fulfilled much later in history, backed up not only in the bible but in history itself.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAgain: there are no hypothetical scenarios whereby science can investigate the verification of miracles. Belief in miracles can only be a leap of faith. This applies equally to God doing miracles and the Blue Fairy granting your wishes...which you said would be proof of the Blue Fairy's existence.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe reason you believe most of what you do about science is derived from papers about science. and not even directly, but mostly news stories about the papers, or textbooks about the papers, or just TV. And everything you know about history is from watching TV or reading textbooks. You have zero primary knowledge Jim. Everything you know is second or third hand or even farther removed.
The bible is not one book. it is a collection of books written over thousands of years. It has a lot more than stories. It has verified history. It has prophesies in earlier books that have been fulfilled much later in history, backed up not only in the bible but in history itself.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMost of what I believe is corraborated again and again Sparko, and if there turns out to be flaws in the data it is because they can be continually investigated.
It is a collection of books with the same religious agenda. It does have verified history, but it also has unverified claims within that history. Just because a couple of guys, who, as far as we know, were probably fictional characters themselves, claim that a man walked on water, only seen by themselves, is not good reason to believe it. The same goes for all the unverified supernatural claims of a few people with a religious agenda. Your mind is a product of those beliefs as they come to you from the Bible, ergo you believe.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostTassman you have set yourself up so that even if God exists, you would not believe in him.That is pretty much the definition for close-mindedness. Thanks for showing us that again.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostTherefore you were lying when you said you would accept verifiable evidence for God. You would not accept any evidence for God. You are not open minded in the least.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe only reason that you say that you would accept verifiable evidence of there being no god is because you know that there is neither verifiable evidence for or against gods existence. The only point therefore is that it is you believers who are making the unsubstantiated claim, ergo it is only you believers who need to provide the evidence for your claim. If you can't do that, which obviously you can't, no such verifiable evidence exists, then it is a silly question to ask us if we would accept verifiable evidence for gods existence.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postso there is no verifiable evidence against there being God or against Christianity? And you are admitting that, here on Tweb?
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