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  • On Information. I won't regret this.

    I reckon, in the context of DNA, information is:-

    The structure of DNA which, by interacting with it's environment, specifies some aspect of an organism's morphology (structure if you like) or some aspect of an organism's behaviour.


    I'm suggesting that the DNA and how it interacts with its environment, constitutes the information.

    Discuss.

    ++++++

    There, you have it. I'm not afraid to put something up.

    Why is it that the forum's YEC information specialist has to ask me to define "information in the context of DNA" before he will define it for me?

    He is without excuse, surely.
    Last edited by rwatts; 06-12-2016, 04:44 PM.

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    A paper on DNA information and the fin to limb transition:-

    HoxA genes and the fin-to-limb transition in vertebrates

    It looks to be a good summary paper, describing the issues, where the current research is at, what needs to be done in the future, and so on.

    Another one:-

    Conservation and Divergence of Regulatory Strategies at Hox Loci and the Origin of Tetrapod Digits

    (Really, I'm just hoping to attract Jorge's attention.)
    Last edited by rwatts; 06-12-2016, 05:58 PM.

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      The information argument has always struck me as one of the worst possible arguments for the existence of God, or against evolution.

      The combination of "letters," or amino acids, more correctly, is not totally random. There are certain biochemically favored combinations.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by psstein View Post
        The information argument has always struck me as one of the worst possible arguments for the existence of God, or against evolution.
        That's only because you do not understand the issues involved.

        The combination of "letters," or amino acids, more correctly, is not totally random. There are certain biochemically favored combinations.
        Indeed, it is not "random" at all. If it were truly "random" then function would not emerge.

        And yes, there are "certain biochemically favored combinations". What you apparently aren't aware of is that not a single one of those "favored combinations" is able to account for the complex systems found in life. More generally, "favored combinations" accounting for life cannot be the case even in theory!

        I'm afraid that it's back to the drawing board for you, pss.

        Jorge

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        • #5
          Originally posted by psstein View Post
          The combination of "letters," or amino acids, more correctly, is not totally random. There are certain biochemically favored combinations.
          "Random" does not require outcomes to be equiprobable.
          Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jorge View Post
            That's only because you do not understand the issues involved.



            Indeed, it is not "random" at all. If it were truly "random" then function would not emerge.

            And yes, there are "certain biochemically favored combinations". What you apparently aren't aware of is that not a single one of those "favored combinations" is able to account for the complex systems found in life. More generally, "favored combinations" accounting for life cannot be the case even in theory!

            I'm afraid that it's back to the drawing board for you, pss.

            Jorge
            My definition is at the beginning of this thread Jorge.

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