Was 'An Inconvenient Truth' based on science?

[Meh Gerbil]

Only disconnected bis and pieces.

In your honest opinion would you consider a more fitting title for the movie to be "An Incoherent Truth"?

[shunyadragon]

In your honest opinion would you consider a more fitting title for the movie to be "An Incoherent Truth"?

Yes. It is home entertainment, like reality TV.

[rogue06]

I request this thread be closed.

Which will be honored the moment you admit that the rodent is your sock puppet or versa vice.

[Meh Gerbil]

Which will be honored the moment you admit that the rodent is your sock puppet or versa vice.

Meh Gerbil is not my sock puppet.

[Meh Gerbil]

Yes. It is home entertainment, like reality TV.

I thought Trout and I were the last true skeptics on Tweb.
I'm happy to say that I've decided to include you in that category.

Should we get special uniforms?

[rogue06]

I thought Trout and I were the last true skeptics on Tweb.
I'm happy to say that I've decided to include you in that category.

Should we get special uniforms?

May I suggest matching secret decoder rings?

[Juvenal]

May I suggest matching secret decoder rings?

Thank all the gods nobody mentioned manties.

[Kbertsche]

Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
Exactly. Gore took things that may well have been based on legitimate science and pushed it to the extreme

Regarding the first claim: His assertion is identical to the assertion made by a prominent climate scientist.

Says you, but I doubt it. Can you back up your above claim with actual quotes from both folks, including the context of the quotes? (Scientific predictions are usually put forth somewhat tentatively, with the bases and assumptions clearly identified. Political claims are usually put forth much more dogmatically.)

[Meh Gerbil]

Says you, but I doubt it. Can you back up your above claim with actual quotes from both folks, including the context of the quotes? (Scientific predictions are usually put forth somewhat tentatively, with the bases and assumptions clearly identified. Political claims are usually put forth much more dogmatically.)

See the second link in the article.

[HMS_Beagle]

See the second link in the article.

Kilimanjaro ice core records: evidence of Holocene climate change in tropical Africa

[rogue06]

Kilimanjaro ice core records: evidence of Holocene climate change in tropical Africa

I was under the impression that the reduction of the snow on Kilimanjaro was the result of deforestation near its base. This meant the winds that blew up it carried a great deal less moisture which had provided the necessary snow fall.

[Juvenal]

(Scientific predictions are usually put forth somewhat tentatively, with the bases and assumptions clearly identified. Political claims are usually put forth much more dogmatically.)

From the abstract in the article linked by HMSB:

[Kbertsche]

Can you back up your above claim with actual quotes from both folks, including the context of the quotes? (Scientific predictions are usually put forth somewhat tentatively, with the bases and assumptions clearly identified. Political claims are usually put forth much more dogmatically.)

See the second link in the article.

So in other words (as Beagle said): no, you cannot back up your claim with actual direct quotes from both Thompson and Gore. You can't even quote from (or even re-post the link to) the third-party article that you are trusting for this information!

But Beagle has provided both a quote from your third-party article and a link to Thompson's paper. In the text of his paper, Thompson said:

And as lao tzu pointed out, the abstract of Thompson's paper says:

Thompson wrote like a scientist. He qualified his statements with appropriate conditions and caveats: "IF current climatological conditions persist, the remaining ice fields are LIKELYEXPECTED between 2015 and 2020." He did NOT say that this would happen for certain, but that it was conditional and tentative. Thus Thompson will not be "wrong" if this does not occur by 2020.

What about Gore in "AIT"? Did Gore present this prediction as conditional and tentative? Or did he present it as absolute, incontrovertible fact? Can you find an actual, direct quote from Al Gore, with context, to back up your claim that he said the same thing as Thompson?

[Juvenal]

Can you find an actual, direct quote from Al Gore, with context, to back up your claim that he said the same thing as Thompson?

You're asking the guy who posted an article from Daily Caller to check his sources. I think there's a better chance we'll find the pony.

[Meh Gerbil]

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...edictions.html

So yeah, the film made a claim based on a prediction made by 11 scientists (Lonnie among them) and the prediction was wrong.
If you want to argue the fact that they made the prediction and that it was wrong take it up with the author of the paper.
I'm done defending this point as it has been proven.