Graham's Number

[HMS_Beagle]

What are some other inconceivable concepts in math?

Heard this story some years ago on the problem of grasping a concept like infinity.

The little bird of Svithjod

High up in the north, in the land called Svithjod, there stands a rock. It is a hundred miles high and a hundred miles wide. Once every thousand years a little bird comes to this rock to sharpen its beak.

When the rock has thus been worn away, then a single day of eternity will have gone by.

[klaus54]

The average human brain.

Well, the infinity of set theory is conceivable to one with an average human brain that has had some edumacation in abstract maths.

[klaus54]

Heard this story some years ago on the problem of grasping a concept like infinity.

The little bird of Svithjod

High up in the north, in the land called Svithjod, there stands a rock. It is a hundred miles high and a hundred miles wide. Once every thousand years a little bird comes to this rock to sharpen its beak.

When the rock has thus been worn away, then a single day of eternity will have gone by.

Depends the definition of "eternity".

Is it unending time or some entity outside of time?

Also if one tries to equate eternity with infinity (in the mathematical sense), then the anecdote is incorrect.

[shunyadragon]

Discuss. I don't know where the best place to put a math thread is, so I put it in the science area. From a theistic perspective, God fully comprehends this number, correct?

If God exists I am sure God fully comprehends this number. I am not sure the solution proposed by Ronald Graham for a solution as the explanation of the upper bounds of the mathematical problem.

I do not believe this solution and the problem have anything to do with the existence or non-existence.

[firstfloor]

God fully comprehends this number, correct?

[Christianbookworm]

Is FF trying to start anything? No debating about the existance of God in this thread! I have no clue what FF said, given that I have him on ignore.

[Yttrium]

Is FF trying to start anything? No debating about the existance of God in this thread! I have no clue what FF said, given that I have him on ignore.

Yes, it was a trollish comment.

[Sparko]

No it can be shown calculated from the Bible to two places as 3.1. PI has no last digit. Graham's Number last digits are known.

you all are hairy ticks!!!! repent!!!!! the bible is not wrong. the earth is flat and it is a pie. apple. or maybe cherry.

[Christianbookworm]

Yes, it was a trollish comment.

In that case, I would like for him(and whag and starlight and anyone else who can't be civil and want's to make my thread into an argument on theism vs. atheism) to leave my thread alone, please.

[Sparko]

[Sparko]

The Full episode

[37818]

The verse where this is stated gives the ratio in cubits 30/10 = 3.

That would produce a somewhat oblong "sea".

3.1 would obviously be better, but it's not the plain clear simple reading of the verse.

Source: 1 Kings 7:23, AKJV

And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

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From brim to brim is 10 cubits. The brim is one hand breadth wide(v.26), 1/6th cubit. 30 cubits being understood as an inside measure around. This fits the math of PI to 3.1 cubits.

Better yet take 1 Kings 7:23 and remove kings, take the 1 and subtract it from 23. 23 - 1 = 22 then divide by the chapter 7, 22/7 = 3.142857 . . . . a common approximation for PI as 3.14 . . . .

[klaus54]

From brim to brim is 10 cubits. The brim is one hand breadth wide(v.26), 1/6th cubit. 30 cubits being understood as an inside measure around. This fits the math of PI to 3.1 cubits.

Better yet take 1 Kings 7:23 and remove kings, take the 1 and subtract it from 23. 23 - 1 = 22 then divide by the chapter 7, 22/7 = 3.142857 . . . . a common approximation for PI as 3.14 . . . .

It's not off topic since you made the claim of the "Biblical pi" = 3.1.

OK, that's a reasonable explanation. 3.1 would produce a decent approximation to a circle. The area would be off less than 2%.

But, apparently you believe in a kind of "Bibliomatics" as well with your fiddling with verse designations.

Or course you were prolly just kiddin' about that.

[Jorge]

rogue's number is the very last digit of pi

Given that there is no "very last digit of pi" this means that
"rogue's number" is just like the space in rogue's skull - the empty set.

Jorge

[Christianbookworm]

Given that there is no "very last digit of pi" this means that
"rogue's number" is just like the space in rogue's skull - the empty set.

Jorge

Play nice! At least in this thread, understand?