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Deeper Waters is founded on the belief that the Christian community has long been in the shallow end of Christianity while there are treasures of the deep waiting to be discovered. Too many in the shallow end are not prepared when they go out beyond those waters and are quickly devoured by sharks. We wish to aid Christians to equip them to navigate the deeper waters of the ocean of truth and come up with treasure in the end.
We also wish to give special aid to those often neglected, that is, the disabled community. This is especially so since our founders are both on the autism spectrum and have a special desire to reach those on that spectrum. While they are a special emphasis, we seek to help others with any disability realize that God can use them and that they are as the Psalmist says, fearfully and wonderfully made.
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We are at another impasse, both sides looking at the other as if they are intransigent idiots. Why? Answer: Our very discrepant views of the probability of miracles (to us, the probability of the reality of magic).
Unless we can somehow bridge this gap, our conversations are futile. I would suggest this: I am going to buy Keener's book and read it. I would encourage you guys to study how scientists do studies to confirm data. For instance, if someone claims to have been cured of pancreatic cancer by using a special herb, how would scientists confirm or deny it. However, if one believes that miracles occur outside the ability of science to investigate them, this discussion truly is hopeless.Last edited by Gary; 01-22-2016, 12:56 PM.
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Originally posted by Gary View PostWe are at another impasse, both sides looking at the other as if they are intransigent idiots. Why?
Answer: Our very discrepant views of the probability of miracles (to us, the probability of the reality of magic).
Unless we can somehow bridge this gap, our conversations are futile.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostSo, you finally realize that people have different world views?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYeah, pretty sad that his big insight after 40 pages in this thread, months on this forum, years on his own blog, and probably decades in a couple different churches is that Christians believe in miracles. Huh. Whoda thunk.
I, of course, knew that Christians and skeptics have very different world views, but I did not realize the MASSIVE discrepancy in the two views regarding the probability that any event could be due to a miracle. Unless this massive discrepancy can be bridged, we skeptics/naturalists will never believe in your miracle/magic claims, and you theists will never see them as ridiculous and preposterous, as we see them.
Good bye.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostWhich scholars are you relying on to make this argument, or is this an invention of your own imagination?
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Tuesday.Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View PostGood grief. You really don't have a clue do you?
It was written on Wednesday.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View PostOh my! Where do I get in line to deconvert! Because these people did not do exactly what Gary thinks they would (Because you remember, we are told to avoid generalizations) then the whole of the Christian story is entirely false!
Only one thing to say now.
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He could take my bait... about fundy atheists who act as if God were some farm raised alien. from a mid 20th century comic book.Last edited by Christianbookworm; 01-22-2016, 03:16 PM.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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