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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by JimL View PostDid he write about any long dead people who had climbed out of their graves to chit chat with the townspeople? We don't believe everything actual historians have written either.
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Originally posted by psstein View PostI certainly don't believe everything written in the Bible. I'm not an inerrantist in the Chicago Statement fashion.
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Some people pick and choose sections, others pick and choose the whole. Either group might pick and choose on the basis of presupposition and what they want to believe. Alternatively, they might pick and choose on the basis of a reasoned evaluation of the available evidence.Last edited by tabibito; 12-12-2017, 12:38 AM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostSome people pick and choose sections, others pick and choose the whole. Either group might pick and choose on the basis of presupposition and what they want to believe. Alternatively, they might pick and choose on the basis of a reasoned evaluation of the available evidence.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIt's either the word of god or it's not tabi, you don't get to pick and choose. If you are cherry picking what you wish to believe, and disgarding what you don't want to believe, then you are not believing the bible to be the word of god.
with a few caveats:
only in regards to the autographs. Copies can contain errors.
The bible uses figurative language in places.
The bible reports what people observe and say. It can report mistakes, lies, etc.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postdang. I actually agree with JimL here.
with a few caveats:
only in regards to the autographs. Copies can contain errors.
The bible uses figurative language in places.
The bible reports what people observe and say. It can report mistakes, lies, etc.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by JimL View PostDid he write about any long dead people who had climbed out of their graves to chit chat with the townspeople?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNo, he's actually quite a good read. He was very well traveled for his day and wrote about his travels. Quite interesting. Nothing crazy like the bible.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOf course, unlike the NT authors, Herodotus was an actual historian. Like all history, as James Joyce put it, it is fabled by the daughters of memory, and some of it is actually just made up. The New Testament on the other hand is all made up, even though the backdrop it's set in is historic. It's a myth woven into the history. In my humble opinion, of course.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNo, he's actually quite a good read. He was very well traveled for his day and wrote about his travels. Quite interesting. Nothing crazy like the bible.
Histories 3.102-105
[2] In this sandy desert are ants,2 not as big as dogs but bigger than foxes; the Persian king has some of these, which have been caught there. These ants live underground, digging out the sand in the same way as the ants in Greece, to which they are very similar in shape, and the sand which they carry from the holes is full of gold. [3] It is for this sand that the Indians set forth into the desert. They harness three camels apiece, males on either side sharing the drawing, and a female in the middle: the man himself rides on the female, that when harnessed has been taken away from as young an offspring as may be. Their camels are as swift as horses, and much better able to bear burdens besides. I do not describe the camel's appearance to Greeks, for they know it; but I shall tell them something that they do not know concerning it: the hindlegs of the camel have four thighbones and four knee-joints; its genitals are turned towards the tail between the hindlegs. Thus and with teams so harnessed the Indians ride after the gold, being careful to be engaged in taking it when the heat is greatest; for the ants are then out of sight underground. [2] Now in these parts the sun is hottest in the morning, not at midday as elsewhere, but from sunrise to the hour of market-closing. Through these hours it is much hotter than in Hellas at noon, so that men are said to sprinkle themselves with water at this time. [3] At midday the sun's heat is nearly the same in India as elsewhere. As it goes to afternoon, the sun of India has the power of the morning sun in other lands; as day declines it becomes ever cooler, until at sunset it is exceedingly cold. So when the Indians come to the place with their sacks, they fill these with the sand and drive back as fast as possible; for the ants at once scent them out, the Persians say, and give chase. They say nothing is equal to them for speed, so that unless the Indians have a headstart while the ants were gathering, not one of them would get away. [2] They cut loose the male trace-camels, which are slower than the females, as they begin to lag, one at a time; the mares never tire, for they remember the young that they have left. Such is the tale. Most of the gold (say the Persians) is got in this way by the Indians; they dig some from mines in their country, too, but it is less abundant.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOf course, unlike the NT authors, Herodotus was an actual historian. Like all history, as James Joyce put it, it is fabled by the daughters of memory, and some of it is actually just made up. The New Testament on the other hand is all made up, even though the backdrop it's set in is historic. It's a myth woven into the history. In my humble opinion, of course.
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