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Book Plunge: Will Dogs Chase Cats In Heaven?

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  • Book Plunge: Will Dogs Chase Cats In Heaven?

    Will Fido and Mittens be there?

    The link can be found here.

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    What do I think of Dan Story's book published by Kingdom Come Publishing? Let's plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    I didn't really know what to expect when I got Dan's book in the mail. I had requested it for a possible interview especially seeing as I am married to an animal lover. I don't hate animals or anything, but I'm not the most crazy about them. Generally, I've been a cat person and when it came to choosing our first pet, as luck would have it, Allie found a cat that she just fell in love with. Our little treasure is a white Turkish Angora, possibly another breed as well, named Shiro, the Japanese word for white.

    Dan's book is about addressing the question of if animals will be found in the afterdeath. Some of you might think that there is not much that can be found on this topic. I could understand that, but Dan really brings out a lot that you wouldn't consider. It's not light material either. It is a serious look at science and the text.

    Dan also includes many stories of animals and their interactions and the way that they think. Many of us are quite interesting to hear about. If you're an animal lover, you will go through this section with a smile on your face. Dan has done immense research drawing stories from all over the literature.

    Dan also does go into eschatology here and I was very pleasantly pleased. Dan rightly gets that Heaven is not some far off place in eternity and this world is an afterthought. No. This is the world that we are meant to live on. This is where we are to fulfill our purpose. The final reality will be the marriage of Heaven and Earth. This will be far better than Eden in the end.

    Dan interacts with a number of great biblical scholars in this work. Great minds like Richard Bauckham and Anthony Hoekema show up in this work. He will also interact with many philosophers like C.S. Lewis and Peter Kreeft. If you know works of apologetics, you will recognize names in here.

    Dan's handling of the Biblical text is also very careful and reasoned. Some passages that you would think have nothing to do with animal resurrection are brought in, such as Jesus being with the wild beasts in Mark. I came to this one with skepticism as well, but Dan made a good argument and having it backed by Richard Bauckham gives some credibility.

    There are some minor points I will disagree with Dan on still. I am not convinced about a literal millennial kingdom, but I don't think that that is necessary for the thesis in the book. The points I saw of disagreement were over peripheral points and none of them were substantial to the main thesis of the book.

    Animal resurrection is something we can hope for and it's not a hill I'm willing to die on yet, but it's certainly one that I think a strong case has been presented for. I think anyone who is interested in this question should look at the information presented in this book. It's a good and short read that is readily approachable by all.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters

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    My thinking is that God is good, and if it will make you happy to have your favorite pet(s) back, God can easily do that for you. But regardless, I do believe there will be animals on the new earth. Why wouldn't there be? They were created by God in the first place, and they were in the garden of Eden, even before man. A world without animals would not be perfect. It would be lacking and the New Earth will be perfect.

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    • #3
      Reminds me of this...




      To enbiggenate imagification
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      resulting imagification

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #4
        Just a side note, animals have souls. Only mankind was made in God's image.



        You can, of course, look up of the Hebrew translated "creature" as used in all standard [reliable] translations. [I use the KJV myself.]

        Genesis 1:24,
        . . . And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. . . .
        . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

        . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

        Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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