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The originals are lost as of today and the Bible today is not fully inspired by God since there are contraditions in today Bible as shown, for example, between 1 Timothy 6:16 and Matthew 5:8.
The problem becomes clearer when we realise that the Protestant Bible has 66 books while the Catholic Bible has 73 books. However, each of the Catholic and Protestant Bibles claims to be God only inspired bible.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostIt does not matter what the reasons are for the existance of the contradition between 2 kings 8:26 and 2 chronicles 22:2.
What matters is the unchanged fact that the Bible today is not fully inspired by God with such contradition despite how this contradition got in today Bible.
By the way, contradition between 2 kings 8:26 and 2 chronicles 22:2 is one of many contraditions in Bible today.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostThe underlined is merely an assertion, and has not been shown. You might believe it, but you've not given us any reason to do so.
No has shown how the pure hearted ones will see God in Matthew 5:8 when 1 Timothy 6:16 says "no one can see God"
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All you seem to be able to do is repeat the phrase "there are contradictions" when asked to demonstrate why these prove that the Bible is not the work of God. Christian scholars are well aware of these passages."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostYour above saying does not solve this contradition.
No has shown how the pure hearted ones will see God in Matthew 5:8 when 1 Timothy 6:16 says "no one can see God"
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostAll you seem to be able to do is repeat the phrase "there are contradictions" when asked to demonstrate why these prove that the Bible is not the work of God. Christian scholars are well aware of these passages.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostGod's inspired revelation cannot have contradition; as such it is contradition when Matthew 5:8 says " the pure hearted people will SEE GOD" WHEREAS 1 Timothy 6:16 says " No one Can see God""I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostGod's inspired revelation cannot have contradition; as such it is contradition when Matthew 5:8 says " the pure hearted people will SEE GOD" WHEREAS 1 Timothy 6:16 says " No one Can see God"Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostYour above words still does not provide us with a way to reconcile between Matthew 5:8 and 1 Timothy 6:16 and the fact remains it is not possible to reconcile such doctrinal contradition where in Matthew 5:8 pure hearted people will SEE God whereas "NO one CAN SEE God" in 1 Timothy 6:16.
Now the Prophet you know as the man Jesus knew God. And like God's written word being spoken, was conceived in His mother by God speaking Him to be conceived. What God speaks is inerrant, does that not make the Prophet Jesus inerrant?
Did not the invisible God appear to Moses as a flame in a bush?. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThank you for proving my point. Somebody else already explained how those can be reconciled but you ignored his argument.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostGod's inspired revelation cannot have contradition;
From Carm.org:
What was man created from: blood, clay, dust, or nothing?
"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).
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