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  • #46
    [QUOTE=Littlejoe;312371]
    Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
    I said REAL world solution. When has this ever worked?
    Only in sir Thomas Moore's "Utopia"
    A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
    George Bernard Shaw

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    • #47
      [QUOTE=Littlejoe;312371]
      Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
      I said REAL world solution. When has this ever worked?
      its never been tried without American obstruction.

      is there some other America that would sabotage this America if the workers took control of the factories they work in?
      To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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      • #48
        [QUOTE=jordanriver;312376]
        Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post

        its never been tried without American obstruction.

        is there some other America that would sabotage this America if the workers took control of the factories they work in?
        yes because
        We obstructed the Russian revolution how ??????? Do you even study this stuff?
        A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
        George Bernard Shaw

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        • #49
          Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
          its never been tried without American obstruction.
          Never in the world?

          is there some other America that would sabotage this America if the workers took control of the factories they work in?
          How, exactly, would "the workers" take control of the factories they work in? Which of them will invest their own money in new equipment, infrastructure, research and development....
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #50
            ignores people who debate by first accusing their opponent of drug use.

            It would be a waste of time to discuss anything with them.
            To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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            • #51
              Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
              ignores people who debate by first accusing their opponent of drug use.
              So, you won't respond TO me, but you'll gossip ABOUT me. And I didn't "Accuse" you of drug use - that's totally inaccurate. What I said was " I'm really suspecting you must be stoned when posting." That's stating suspicion, it's not making an accusation.

              It would be a waste of time to discuss anything with them.
              I think you're demonstrating an inability to discuss anything intelligently, which brings me back to my suspicion.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post
                I think that discussion gets us off topic to the OP...
                oh, right, the OP

                Originally posted by seer View Post
                The Act is compromised by greedy Capitalist profiteers from the start. Its a scheme and has netted Big Pharma $35 Billion already.
                I cited Big Pharma's paying off Obama in the Cruz vs Sanders thread POST 80
                Last edited by jordanriver; 04-25-2016, 07:38 PM.
                To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                • #53
                  [QUOTE=Catholicity;312380]
                  Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                  yes because
                  We obstructed the Russian revolution how ??????? Do you even study this stuff?
                  We did obstruct the Russian Revolution. With reason to start with, as the Communists made a separate peace with Germany. However, POTUS Wilson sent in troops to try to salvage power for the White Russians. You are the one who does not know history.

                  However, the U. S. stood by and allowed Communists to take over in China and Cuba, courtesy of General Vinegar Joe Stilwell and New York Times journalist Herbert Matthews, respectively under two Presidents Truman and Eisenhower in a row. The McCarthyites had a point.
                  Near the Peoples' Republic of Davis, south of the State of Jefferson (Suspended between Left and Right)

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Adam View Post
                    We did obstruct the Russian Revolution. With reason to start with, as the Communists made a separate peace with Germany. However, POTUS Wilson sent in troops to try to salvage power for the White Russians. You are the one who does not know history.

                    However, the U. S. stood by and allowed Communists to take over in China and Cuba, courtesy of General Vinegar Joe Stilwell and New York Times journalist Herbert Matthews, respectively under two Presidents Truman and Eisenhower in a row. The McCarthyites had a point.
                    Yup. The 339th infantry (Polar Bears)

                    And we did try interfere Cuba too. I guess people forgot Bay of Pigs. And we meddle in Vietnam and Korean civil wars. We meddle all over South and Central America.

                    Capitalist America cannot tolerate anybody get big ideas of a country run by workers
                    Last edited by Cow Poke; 04-26-2016, 08:45 AM.
                    To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                    • #55
                      What's deal with quotes. I responded to Adam
                      To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                        What's deal with quotes. I responded to Adam
                        I took the liberty of fixing that for you - when one person messes up a quote (leaving a fragment of the quote function arguments) and another person quotes that mangled post, the problem replicates. I simply removed the part that incorrectly attributed Adam's post to Cath.

                        You're welcome.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Adam View Post

                          Yup. The 339th infantry (Polar Bears)

                          And we did try interfere Cuba too. I guess people forgot Bay of Pigs. And we meddle in Vietnam and Korean civil wars. We meddle all over South and Central America.

                          Capitalist America cannot tolerate anybody get big ideas of a country run by workers
                          I did not misstate that we (the U. S.) did not interfere with Communist Cuba. I said instead that we did not interfere with Castro taking over in the years before 1960. After Castro executed hundreds we turned against Castro, but not seriously enough to win at the Bay of Pigs.
                          The West helped Lenin take over Russia. Germany sent Lenin into Russia to undermine the war regime of Socialist Kerensky. Lenin also had the support of U. S. Banker Warburg and Armand Hammer.
                          Near the Peoples' Republic of Davis, south of the State of Jefferson (Suspended between Left and Right)

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                            Capitalist America cannot tolerate anybody get big ideas of a country run by workers
                            Do you honestly believe that communist countries are "run by workers"?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Do you honestly believe that communist countries are "run by workers"?
                              why do you waste time dialogue with people who are on drugs or just plain stupid?

                              **

                              during 1920s , (Russian history) considered Golden Age of Soviets, as long as Lenin was in charge. He allowed peasants to take over land, landowners were booted out. In factories owners/supervisors carted out of factories in wheelbarrows.

                              But this only temporary, when Lenin died and tyrant Stalin takes over, workers under his yoke.
                              To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                                why do you waste time dialogue with people who are on drugs or just plain stupid?

                                **

                                during 1920s , (Russian history) considered Golden Age of Soviets, as long as Lenin was in charge. He allowed peasants to take over land, landowners were booted out. In factories owners/supervisors carted out of factories in wheelbarrows.

                                But this only temporary, when Lenin died and tyrant Stalin takes over, workers under his yoke.
                                When Leonid Brezhnev ruled the Soviet Union, there was a popular saying that captured the cynicism that was a result of the years and years of the Soviets socialist economy: "They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work!"
                                "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

                                "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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