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"Feel Good" Preachers and "Prosperity" Preachers

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  • "Feel Good" Preachers and "Prosperity" Preachers

    What do "Feel Good" preachers and "Prosperity" preachers have in common? They're both "deceived."

    Both these preachers are promoting "self satisfaction" that will deprive of their fellows of their satisfaction. Surprisingly, a lot of churches are now being moved to "satisfying" their community of believers. But believe it or not, the moral foundation of the members will collapse if the church will subject its goals/works into satisfying the members. In the end, we need knowledge of truth why "self satisfaction" is not the end goal of morality.

    But how would one differentiate the "Feel Good" preachers to those preachers who merely preach "Good Promises"? Preachers who merely preach "Good Promises" ends up nothing different to the "Feel Good", nor of the "Prosperity", preachers.

    So far, christian apologists are doing fine in defending theism. Yet the atheists are undeterred because Christians fail to step further in just making "Good Promises."
    ...WISDOM giveth life to them that have it. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)
    ...the ISLES shall wait for his law (Isaiah 42:4)
    https://philippinesinprophecies.wordpress.com/

  • #2
    Yeah, that doesn't change the fact that you spout crazy stuff too.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
      What do "Feel Good" preachers and "Prosperity" preachers have in common? They're both "deceived."

      Both these preachers are promoting "self satisfaction" that will deprive of their fellows of their satisfaction. Surprisingly, a lot of churches are now being moved to "satisfying" their community of believers. But believe it or not, the moral foundation of the members will collapse if the church will subject its goals/works into satisfying the members. In the end, we need knowledge of truth why "self satisfaction" is not the end goal of morality.

      But how would one differentiate the "Feel Good" preachers to those preachers who merely preach "Good Promises"? Preachers who merely preach "Good Promises" ends up nothing different to the "Feel Good", nor of the "Prosperity", preachers.

      So far, christian apologists are doing fine in defending theism. Yet the atheists are undeterred because Christians fail to step further in just making "Good Promises."
      How would you classify Paul? Was Paul a feel good preacher?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eeset View Post
        How would you classify Paul? Was Paul a feel good preacher?
        Nope! Don't know what FEB will claim... he's a few fries short of a happy meal.
        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
          Yeah, that doesn't change the fact that you spout crazy stuff too.

          "Too"????? Us???? Both????

          I can face God with a clean heart that I understand his salvation.
          ...WISDOM giveth life to them that have it. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)
          ...the ISLES shall wait for his law (Isaiah 42:4)
          https://philippinesinprophecies.wordpress.com/

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          • #6
            I can face God with a clean heart, because he has made me clean. I trust His salvation.
            Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
              I can face God with a clean heart, because he has made me clean. I trust His salvation.

              Rom 16:18
              18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.


              Sure anybody can trust God....but believing promises is different from knowing the revelation that was revealed by Christ.


              1John 5:20
              20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
              ...WISDOM giveth life to them that have it. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)
              ...the ISLES shall wait for his law (Isaiah 42:4)
              https://philippinesinprophecies.wordpress.com/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eeset View Post
                How would you classify Paul? Was Paul a feel good preacher?
                Surely not. He was, to me, actually plain in his teaching. People just misunderstand Paul, and make vain imagination of the words that he wrote in mystery.
                ...WISDOM giveth life to them that have it. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)
                ...the ISLES shall wait for his law (Isaiah 42:4)
                https://philippinesinprophecies.wordpress.com/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
                  Rom 16:18
                  18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.


                  Sure anybody can trust God....but believing promises is different from knowing the revelation that was revealed by Christ.


                  1John 5:20
                  20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
                  You just have to have the Creator of the Universe as your patron, and you're good to go. Good works will get you rewards.
                  If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                    You just have to have the Creator of the Universe as your patron, and you're good to go. Good works will get you rewards.
                    You have nothing but making a "good promise".

                    This is an obvious problem with religions. When beliefs are merely driven by feelings of satisfaction it becomes unmoved by reason. Atheists themselves, without being satisfied of their limited existence, cannot survive.

                    Many christians fail in their search of God because the false gospels preached by many are, in the end, simply focused on good promises towards self satisfaction. The reason the gospel is about knowing God is because people are worshiping Him for the wrong reasons and wrong intentions. And people who ask God for self satisfactions are asking amiss because they are simply asking about their fleshly desires.

                    The call of God to eternal life is not only to be satisfied but also to suffer. Not the suffering that we see in this world, but to suffer for the weaknesses of our fellow brethren, just as how they may suffer for our own weaknesses.

                    When God perfected us, it is because He would forgive us of our weaknesses. In reality, by falling into our weaknesses we will still sin; but not like the sin against the Holy Ghost. The promise unto the children of God is to eternally inhabit this earth, of which our resurrected body is no different than we have now. Does anyone of your really believe that God had put us in this earthly circumstances, and to fight off the evil of this earthly circumstances, but then resurrect us into a different unrelated realm of circumstances?

                    Seek the truth of the kingdom of God that is being promised to us.

                    Jesus said, "..Seek ye first the kingdom of God..." And Paul said, "If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God." Paul was saying the same things what Jesus said: seek the kingdom of God where Christ sits on the right hand of God. What we ought to know about God is of His godhead over his kingdom; this is the reason why the gospel is also bout the kingdom of God. Without knowledge of the godhead, and of the kingdom of God, one cannot be saved.

                    Those who make preach mere "good promises" are actually blind of the truth, not knowing the true promises of God.


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                    Last edited by FarEastBird; 10-16-2014, 09:00 PM.
                    ...WISDOM giveth life to them that have it. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)
                    ...the ISLES shall wait for his law (Isaiah 42:4)
                    https://philippinesinprophecies.wordpress.com/

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                    • #11
                      You still make no sense. So much for the kingdom of heaven being accessible to little children. It's easy to learn, difficult to master!
                      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
                        You have nothing but making a "good promise".

                        This is an obvious problem with religions. When beliefs are merely driven by feelings of satisfaction it becomes unmoved by reason. Atheists themselves, without being satisfied of their limited existence, cannot survive.
                        How does being convinced that Christ is able relate to this imaginary feeling of satisfaction? You are not making sense here.
                        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                          You still make no sense. So much for the kingdom of heaven being accessible to little children. It's easy to learn, difficult to master!
                          You just don't understand.
                          Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                            You still make no sense. So much for the kingdom of heaven being accessible to little children. It's easy to learn, difficult to master!
                            Irony.

                            You are the one not making any sense. And you don't understand what Christ was saying either.

                            To be in the kingdom of God you need to be "born again." To be born again is to be in the image of God, which is attained through having a "renewed mind." Read Eph 4:8-24.

                            Paul said, "Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men."


                            I know some are totally acting childish towards God. They dare think they will be forgiven of their innocence, and not asked for a renewed mind.
                            Last edited by FarEastBird; 10-17-2014, 04:03 PM.
                            ...WISDOM giveth life to them that have it. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)
                            ...the ISLES shall wait for his law (Isaiah 42:4)
                            https://philippinesinprophecies.wordpress.com/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
                              Irony.

                              You are the one not making any sense. And you don't understand what Christ was saying either.

                              To be in the kingdom of God you need to be "born again." To be born again is to be in the image of God, which is attained through having a "renewed mind." Read Eph 4:8-16.

                              Paul said, "Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men."


                              I know some are totally acting childish towards God. They dare think they will be forgiven of their innocence, and not asked for a renewed mind.
                              That looks like a job for the Holy Spirit! Seriously, He does the mind renewing thing.
                              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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