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  • #31
    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    We ain't docetists. But you can't make the mistake of denying Christ being divine. Jesus is fully God and fully man.
    It's true that He is fully God, but He emptied Himself:

    Phillipians 2:7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Do you consider yourself to be a prophet?
    Is sharing a new teaching being a prophet? What do you think is happening here:

    1 Corinthians 14:26What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a psalm or a teaching, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. All of these must be done to build up the church.

    Did the RCC accuse Luther of being a prophet? Actually, I'm only building on what the NPP believes: faith means loyalty, not just mental assent, needs to be proved, not just remain lip service. For which the NPP is being blamed for teaching a new teaching. The problem is, we are not bringing new revelation, writing new Scripture. We are bringing back the original understanding of the first church.

    Look at what Tercel says about how Josephus uses the word, pistis, believe:

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    In his autobiography, Jospehus describes a time when he was the leader of a small army, and another group had tried to kill him. Josephus captures the enemy leader and says to him “repent and have faith in me hereafter” (Life 110). What Josephus clearly means by this is “become part of my army, and obey my commands.”

    https://theogeek.blogspot.com/2005/0..._sbfeGwQjI&m=1

    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    He thinks he knows more than I do....
    Is this a kind of contest like the Scripps National Spelling Bee or the International Math Olympiad? Or y'all into seed spitting? What title are you holding?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Chiefsinner View Post
      Is sharing a new teaching being a prophet?
      Why does it seem impossible for you to answer a simple question?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
        We ain't docetists. But you can't make the mistake of denying Christ being divine. Jesus is fully God and fully man.
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Do you consider yourself to be a prophet?
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Why does it seem impossible for you to answer a simple question?
        Prophets bring new revelation, contribute to the Word of God, write Scripture, so no, I don't consider myself a prophet.

        Why don't you try to find a hole in the reasoning that was presented? If Jesus did not empty Himself, how did He learn obedience through suffering?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Chiefsinner View Post
          Prophets bring new revelation, contribute to the Word of God, write Scripture, so no, I don't consider myself a prophet.
          Thanks for finally answering the question.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Thanks for finally answering the question.
            Actually, the controversy is whether there were other writers other than the 12, who are Apostles (capital A) writers of the NT, together contributing to Scripture, like the Prophets contributed to the OT:

            https://www.waynegrudem.com/wp-conte...-Prophesy3.pdf

            Ephesians 2:19So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, 20having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, 21in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, 22in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.

            If we don't build with precious material, the teaching of the Apostles and the Prophets, our sharing will be burnt up, but unlike the OT prophets (non capital P) we won't be stoned to death, but live, only as through flames!
            Last edited by footwasher; 08-30-2020, 08:23 PM.

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            • #36
              Luke and Mark were not among the Twelve. There is no controversy. And that has nothing to do with the question.
              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Thanks for finally answering the question.
                But, then again, you deleted the answer. Got something to hide?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  So, I ask gain....

                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Do you consider yourself to be a prophet?
                  Please try really hard just to give a straight answer, OK?
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #39
                    Considering that his username derives from the Apostle Paul referring to himself as "the chief of sinners"? Nah, he might just really like Paul's writings. Too bad he can't write as good as him. Oh, where did the idea that Adam would be able to walk off a cliff with no problem come from? Being a Christian does not mean one is immune to life's problems. Especially not death. Either Christ returns before you die, or you go to be with Him when you die.
                    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      But, then again, you deleted the answer. Got something to hide?
                      Strange. The posts get deleted when I edit with a smart phone. I think the mapping of the hot links gets messed up. IOW, the delete button gets pressed when I press save changes.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Chiefsinner View Post
                        Strange. The posts get deleted when I edit with a smart phone. I think the mapping of the hot links gets messed up. IOW, the delete button gets pressed when I press save changes.
                        OK, so how bout taking another stab at it?

                        Do you consider yourself to be a prophet? It seems like you're trying to find a way to say no, but allow yourself enough wiggle room to think you are, indeed, a prophet.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          I had a post get deleted on this thread that I had posted via smartphone also. Must be a bug....
                          If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                            I had a post get deleted on this thread that I had posted via smartphone also. Must be a bug....
                            You're saying smartphones aren't always so smart?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              You're saying smartphones aren't always so smart?
                              It's a device trying to be a phone, computer, camera, GPS, gaming system, and whatever other apps you have at the same time. And this site is buggy on the phone.
                              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                So, I ask gain....



                                Please try really hard just to give a straight answer, OK?
                                Wayne Grudem says the NT prophets were not all Apostles, those who wrote Scripture. They just shared what they thought Scripture meant, interpreted. Aren't we all doing this? That's why we should not avoid the gathering of saints, like we gather in TWeb. We need the checks and balances of being corrected by each other through supporting Scripture. Is God's Word not like fire, a hammer that breaks even rocks? Jeremiah 23:29.

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