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  • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
    The documents found in the Dead Sea cave ...
    Caves. Numerous. At least 11.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      The dead sea scrolls are not the bible. Not that I think they say what you claim anyway. If you told me the sky was blue I would have to double check it for myself.

      I will go by what the bible actually says, not by what some old scroll says about it, nor what some "bible scholar" says that they say about the bible.

      And even IF the bible said that works are needed for salvation, YOUR idea of the "work" needed is not in the bible at all. It only exists in your head.

      And Paul clearly denounced the Jews "entitlement" elsewhere. Like in Romans 2, saying all that does is put you under the Law, and then he goes on to say why we are NOT under the Law and works, but under a new covenant, where we are credited the righteousness of Christ for our FAITH. Not works.

      Have you ever just read the bible? Instead of picking verses out here and there? Just sat down and read it from start to finish? Try it sometime.
      The points we studied are complex and need to be unpacked. A hard task, but believers have the Holy Spirit, have walked with Christ, so they can try to understand and succeed. But it's going to be tough to take all the points all at one time. If you are willing, let's go through the points one at a time. You can chose the order and then we can agree on a few ground rules or guide lines.
      Last edited by footwasher; 09-02-2020, 01:54 PM.

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      • Originally posted by footwasher
        The documents found in the Dead Sea cave prove Paul was not criticising salvation by works like Luther taught. It was rebuking entitlement, Jews thought God owed them special treatment because they were children of Abraham, through circumcision!
        That is total bull. Ephesians 2:8-9 alone disprove that. Written by Paul, even.

        “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”


        And Galatians 2:16. Also written by Paul.

        Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.


        You are full of heresy. Repent!


        Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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        • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
          The points we studied are complex and need to be unpacked. A hard task, but believers have the Holy Spirit, have walked with Christ, so they can try to understand and succeed. But it's going to be tough to take all the points all at one time. If you are willing, let's go through the points one at a time. You can chose the order and then we can agree on a few ground rules or guide lines.
          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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          • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
            The points we studied are complex and need to be unpacked. A hard task, but believers have the Holy Spirit, have walked with Christ, so they can try to understand and succeed. But it's going to be tough to take all the points all at one time. If you are willing, let's go through the points one at a time. You can chose the order and then we can agree on a few ground rules or guide lines.
            You haven't answered the points I made already.

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