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  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Read the account in Acts 5 where Peter makes clear the real problem.
    Seriously? You can't see his error?

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    • Originally posted by Chiefsinner View Post
      They said this about all Jesus's followers.


      I have to admit, you ARE entertaining!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Chiefsinner View Post
        Seriously? You can't see his error?
        Peter made no error. At least, not in this case.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
          Where did the misconception that the problem was that A & S didn't give all of the money come from? Peter even states that they lied to the Holy Spirit, and God does not like fraud.
          Read my post carefully. It doesn't say what you think it says.

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Peter made no error. At least, not in this case.
            Seriously. You thought I was thinking about Peter?

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            • Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
              Why do you keep thinking I am an ignoramus?
              Sorry, I just went back and checked.

              Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
              Can y'all take this to a new thread please? It's getting too debatey for a light hearted thread about being homesick for heaven and feeling like one is an alien.

              I thought it read "light headed". My bad.

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              • Originally posted by Chiefsinner View Post
                Seriously. You thought I was thinking about Peter?
                Seriously, I don't take you seriously at all, and was just pulling your chain.

                Blog on!!!
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Seriously, I don't take you seriously at all, and was just pulling your chain.

                  Blog on!!!
                  Ok, so you really thought I was posting about Peter. A blog would be pointless for those who are reading comprehension challenged, no?

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                  • Originally posted by Chiefsinner View Post
                    Hi CB, could you post elsewhere, please. Only heavyweights preferred here.
                    It's not proper to comment on a woman's weight.
                    I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                    • Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                      It's not proper to comment on a woman's weight.
                      She mentioned her preference for light chat. Not consistently though. Lightly. Go through the thread.
                      Last edited by footwasher; 09-01-2020, 01:32 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                        It's not proper to comment on a woman's weight.
                        He thought Ibwas an intellectual lightweight.
                        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                        • Originally posted by footwasher View Post
                          Ok, so you really thought I was posting about Peter.
                          No.

                          A blog would be pointless for those who are reading comprehension challenged, no?
                          People generally follow a blog because they like and trust the blogger. You'd have to win an audience first.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • So you think God will always rescue a believer? Then why didn't he rescue Paul from the Romans? Why didn't he take away Paul's thorn in his side? Why do good Christians end up dying of cancer?

                            The only thing God promises to rescue us from is our sin. The rest is his decision and his plan. Sometimes he will indeed rescue the believer, other times his "grace is enough" - and other times it is time to call the believer home.



                            ok I just looked up the New Perspective from the link Cow Poke gave. It sounds like works based salvation to me. But the whole "subdue creation" and "God will always rescue the believer" sounds like that is all you. Correct?


                            Creation was like the model plane kit your dad bought you, incomplete, which were projects he used to bond with you in completing together, just like Adam bonded with God in subduing creation. It is like that incomplete hot rod in the garage, just crying out to be finished:
                            Say what? Creation was perfect when God made it. It was good. It only became imperfect after the fall and when God cursed it.


                            Romans 8:1019For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

                            Adam was supposed to subdue creation, but first he had to subdue himself, because he represented creation in microcosm. By seeing the "out of the normal" works of God, Adam was supposed to be awed into submission, just like Rahab and Nicodemus were awed into submission.
                            That is NOT what the verse is saying. You are reading into it again.


                            Well if NT Wright believes the "new perspective" as you and that wiki page claims, then he is wrong. very wrong.


                            This is why you are unorthodox. You are adding to the gospel. Adding your own conditions on salvation. Stuff you just made up.

                            Sure you have to change your loyalty from the world to Christ. You no longer belong to the world, but to God's Kingdom. There is no "test" you have to pass before you are saved.

                            You have to know you are a sinner and want forgiveness, then call upon God to save you through Jesus' sacrifice. You "change sides" from the world to God's side. He is your king. Your life is committed to him. That's it. You are saved. You could drop dead right after praying for salvation and you would be in heaven. You don't even HAVE to be baptized. Baptism is a ceremony where you basically show the world your loyalty to Christ. If you are a Christian you will obey and be baptized. But if you can't be baptized you are still saved.



                            You must understand that this teaching would empty a church in a jiffy. Have you wondered why there is not even a single honest commentary about Luke 14:33?

                            "So then, none of you can be My disciple who does not give up all his own possessions.
                            So did you give up all of your possessions? How are you communicating on Tweb without a phone or a computer?





                            Why does TWeb have his view on its title? Why did The Arminian have an entire blog here, The Romans Clearinghouse, promoting his books? This man is reforming the Reformation.
                            What view on what title? "Heaven is important, but it's not the end of the world." -- N.T. Wright? That? We thought it was a clever quote. It doesn't mean we follow NT Wright as some guru.

                            Why did Jesus teach in parables? Why was the man born blind?
                            You seem to be wandering again.


                            So that the works of God would be displayed in him! That's why important parts are left out, so that the works of God can be displayed!


                            Wow, that was awesome. Oftentimes I paint myself into a corner making huge claims about an interpretation, and expecting to be roasted, found wanting, but God always saves. Always. I could point you to some amazing saves on many discussion forums I take part in, if you want, just to demonstrate this cross/resurrection method, modus operandi, what Scripture calls the Way. Booyah!
                            Wait you think that God left out how to be saved from the bible because of the parable of the blind man? So YOU could discover it 2000 years later? Meaning everyone else got it wrong all that time and are probably in hell? You seem to think very highly of yourself for using such a humble name

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                            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Wait you think that God left out how to be saved from the bible because of the parable of the blind man? So YOU could discover it 2000 years later? Meaning everyone else got it wrong all that time and are probably in hell? You seem to think very highly of yourself for using such a humble name
                              Same could be said of JimL in his own version of Matt 16:28 ---- ALL the theologians and commentators got it wrong, but 2,000 years later, JimL has it figured out!
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • By the way, James Dunn is behind a lot of this "New Perspective" stuff.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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