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  • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
    Just a reminder to avoid referring to Jesus as God.

    Jesus is God's son. We all are the children of God, who is our Heavenly Father.

    So many people cling to the vague words of John (John 1:1) wherein they have to add their own interpretations, while disregarding the plain language of Paul (1 Timothy 1:2)

    Stick with the simplicity of God's word. God is our Heavenly Father, and Jesus is our Lord and King.
    Jesus is God.png
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
      Just a reminder to avoid referring to Jesus as God.

      Jesus is God's son. We all are the children of God, who is our Heavenly Father.

      So many people cling to the vague words of John (John 1:1) wherein they have to add their own interpretations, while disregarding the plain language of Paul (1 Timothy 1:2)

      Stick with the simplicity of God's word. God is our Heavenly Father, and Jesus is our Lord and King.
      Jesus didn't appropriate Ba'al imagery to proclaim that he was "Lord and King". Even the Jews recognized that. Mat. 24:30, Mat. 26:64, Mk. 13:26, Mk. 14:62, Lk. 21:27

      Jesus is God.
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      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        Jesus didn't appropriate Ba'al imagery to proclaim that he was "Lord and King". Even the Jews recognized that. Mat. 24:30, Mat. 26:64, Mk. 13:26, Mk. 14:62, Lk. 21:27

        Jesus is God.
        Jesus is STILL God.png
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
          ....We all are the children of God.....
          I'm gonna call you on that specifically.

          We are the creation of God, but we become His children when we are adopted into His Family by becoming joint heirs with Christ.

          The Bible is clear that all people are God’s creation (Colossians 1:16), and that God loves the entire world (John 3:16), but only those who are born again are children of God (John 1:12; 11:52; Romans 8:16; 1 John 3:1-10).


          Scripture Verse: John 1

          10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

          11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

          12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

          13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

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          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
            Just a reminder to avoid referring to Jesus as God.

            Jesus is God's son. We all are the children of God, who is our Heavenly Father.

            So many people cling to the vague words of John (<a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/preSearch.cfm?Criteria=John+1.1&amp;t=NIV" target="BLB_NW" rel="NIV.John.1.1" class="BLBST_a" style="white-space: nowrap;">John 1:1</a>) wherein they have to add their own interpretations, while disregarding the plain language of Paul (<a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/preSearch.cfm?Criteria=1Timothy+1.2&amp;t=NIV" target="BLB_NW" rel="NIV.1Timothy.1.2" class="BLBST_a" style="white-space: nowrap;">1 Timothy 1:2</a>)

            Stick with the simplicity of God's word. God is our Heavenly Father, and Jesus is our Lord and King.
            You prophesied:

            Source: https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum/world-religions/unorthodox-theology-201/1555412-avoid-saying-jesus-is-god?p=1556633#post1556633

            There will be an extraordinary event out in space. I don't know what it is, we may not have a name for it. It will be something we have not seen before. If this extraordinary event happen within a week (it takes time for light to travel), then believe that God has given you a witness to what I have been saying, and you need to pay closer attention. If it does not happen, then believe me not.

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            Your prophecy did not come to pass, therefore you are a false prophet and we do not believe you or your message of leading people away from God. Then you have the audacity to come back and try to preach the same message? Your hubris knows no bounds.
            We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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            • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
              Just a reminder to avoid referring to Jesus as God.

              Jesus is God's son. We all are the children of God, who is our Heavenly Father.
              Scripture Verse: John 10:30

              I and the Father are one

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              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                Scripture Verse: John 10:30

                I and the Father are one

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                Wait - are you claiming that the Bible says that

                Jesus is God.png ???
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  Wait - are you claiming that the Bible says that

                  Jesus is God.png ???
                  I think I'm saying that Jesus said so.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    I think I'm saying that Jesus said so.
                    Well, technically, you're referring to the Bible where there's an account of John saying that Jesus said that.

                    All totally reliable sources, I might add - a Trifecta of Testimony that....

                    Jesus is God.png
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                      I'm gonna call you on that specifically.

                      We are the creation of God, but we become His children when we are adopted into His Family by becoming joint heirs with Christ.
                      Point noted, however, this is a religious site, with most (if not all) in this forum claiming to be of the Christian faith. If Paul, speaking to the Romans, can use that phrase, then I figure it is safe for me to use it likewise (Rom. 8:16)

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                        Scripture Verse: John 10:30

                        I and the Father are one

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                        Then we are all going to become God? Jesus asked that all those who believe on him become one with God (and himself).

                        I would venture to say John 10:30 is not saying what you think it says....

                        Scripture Verse: John 17:22-21

                        Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

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                        Last edited by Larry Serflaten; 04-03-2024, 10:37 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
                          Point noted, however, this is a religious site, with most (if not all) in this forum claiming to be of the Christian faith.
                          Actually, I believe that's far from the truth, as we have plenty of people identifying as agnostic, atheist - or otherwise here to the Christians with very anti-Christian nonsense.

                          If Paul, speaking to the Romans, can use that phrase, then I figure it is safe for me to use it likewise (Rom. 8:16)
                          You seem to excel at being wrong - Paul wasn't writing to the Romans (in general) - he was writing to the Christians there. He states so at the very beginning of the Book of Romans...

                          Scripture Verse: Romans 1 - NIV

                          To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people

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                          So, STRIKE ONE.... no, it's not "safe to use that phrase" here.

                          STRIKE TWO - even in the section you ripped out of context, Paul says...

                          Scripture Verse: Romans 8

                          12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

                          14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

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                          A) He makes it clear - AGAIN - that he is writing to "brothers and sisters" - Christians
                          2) He makes it clear - AGAIN - that he is referencing "those who are led by the Spirit of God" as being "the children of God".

                          STRIKE THREE -

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                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            Paul wasn't writing to the Romans (in general)
                            And neither was I writing to all of humanity (in general). Yet to find fault you assign more to the words than was intended. If that is your expertise, then have at it!

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                            • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
                              Then we are all going to become God?
                              For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

                              Only the men. And only if you're a Mormon.



                              I would venture to say John 10:30 is not saying what you think it says....

                              Scripture Verse: John 17:22-21

                              Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

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                              Let's make it a little less hard for you to understand.... The Easy-to-Read Version....

                              Scripture Verse: John 17

                              20 “I pray not only for these followers but also for those who will believe in me because of their teaching. 21 Father, I pray that all who believe in me can be one. You are in me and I am in you. I pray that they can also be one in us. Then the world will believe that you sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me. I gave them this glory so that they can be one, just as you and I are one. 23 I will be in them, and you will be in me. So they will be completely one. Then the world will know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me.

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                              Jesus is wanting His followers (see vs 20) to be in unity - just as Jesus and the Father are in unity (see vs 21).


                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by Larry Serflaten View Post
                                And neither was I writing to all of humanity (in general).
                                This is not the "mostly Christian" venue you pretended it to be.

                                Yet to find fault you assign more to the words than was intended. If that is your expertise, then have at it!
                                I have but one thing to say to that, Larry....

                                Jesus is STILL God.png

                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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