Is the Papacy the Antichrist?

[Sparko]

[rogue06]

This is one of those "why did we need to resurrect this thread" cases.

My bad. I left a pack of these on my desk which disappeared (the pack not the desk)

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[KingsGambit]

This is one of those "why did we need to resurrect this thread" cases.

[tabibito]

1 - My assessment is that the beast, and THE antichrist are atheist.

2 - People often identify themselves as being and doing the things they accuse others of.

[Rational Gaze]

The anti-Christ was Nero. Case closed.

[KingsGambit]

What definition of "antichrist" are we using? Are we using the general "antichrist" sense like in 1 John 2:22 where anyone who denies Jesus is God is the antichrist? Or the sense of the final Antichrist?

If the former, that doesn't work because the Pope doesn't deny that Jesus is God. If the final Antichrist, given that the papacy has been around for so many centuries...

[Cow Poke]

The problem is, you assume I'm like you

WOW --- if THAT isn't a nutty assumption!

and you accuse me of the same foul motives you would have if you were to do what I do. You only condemn yourself.

Your hatred betrays your claim to be a follower of Christ. Can't you see this?

Yeah, I know "I have studied and studied and studied and I have WAY more Bibles than you do, so I'm a WAY better Christian than you!"

You're gonna be a lot of fun, Brother Dave.

[Dave L]

I'm really not. I think you're a nut and legalistic knowed-up Pharisee.



Yeah, I'll stay up all night worrying about that.



Cool. But you have no right to try to tell me what to do.

The problem is, you assume I'm like you and you accuse me of the same foul motives you would have if you were to do what I do. You only condemn yourself.
Your hatred betrays your claim to be a follower of Christ. Can't you see this?

[Cow Poke]

But you are stalking me to pick fights.

I'm really not. I think you're a nut and legalistic knowed-up Pharisee.

I don't look you up.

Yeah, I'll stay up all night worrying about that.

I try to avoid you.

Cool. But you have no right to try to tell me what to do.

[Dave L]

Here....




A) Getting paranoid?
2) I'll post anywhere I wish within the confines of the board.

But you are stalking me to pick fights. I don't look you up. I try to avoid you.

[Cow Poke]

Where did I say any such thing?

Here....

If you believe in free will, you believe more like the Antichrist Catholics than you do Luther and all the Reformed. What can I say?

Quit stalking me.

A) Getting paranoid?
2) I'll post anywhere I wish within the confines of the board.

[Dave L]

In spite of your nonsensical accusation that I, somehow, support the Pope, I have consistently said that the Pope is not a position I recognize, nor do I believe Peter was, in any way shape or form, the first Pope.

Where did I say any such thing? Quit stalking me. Be a pro.

[Cow Poke]

One of the most profound statements by the Papacy itself is that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ. Vicar

In spite of your nonsensical accusation that I, somehow, support the Pope, I have consistently said that the Pope is not a position I recognize, nor do I believe Peter was, in any way shape or form, the first Pope.

[Dave L]

One of the most profound statements by the Papacy itself is that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ. Vicar

Job title

A vicar is a representative, deputy or substitute; anyone acting "in the person of" or agent for a superior. Linguistically, vicar is cognate with the English prefix "vice", similarly meaning "deputy". Wikipedia

The word vicar comes from the Latin word vicarius meaning substitution.

The on-line version of the Pocket Catholic Dictionary by John A. Hardon, S.J. defines the Vicar of Christ as, “The Pope, visible head of the Church on earth, acting for and in the place of Christ. He possesses supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Catholic Church...”

Antichrist = against or in place of. —ORIGIN Middle English: via Anglo-Norman French from Old French vicaire, from Latin vicarius ‘substitute’, from vic- ‘change, place’ (compare with VICE3).

Soanes, C., & Stevenson, A., eds. (2004). In Concise Oxford English dictionary (11th ed.). Oxford University Press.

[Cow Poke]

Strictly original with credit given to quotes. I spent years off and on putting this together.

Thanks.