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  • #46
    Originally posted by Dave L View Post

    Yes.
    OK, I think maybe we're moving from hyper-Calvinist judgmental Pharisee to
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      Ok, so your all-good God regularly mind-controls leaders to commit genocide.

      I'm assuming you supported Trump's actions?
      What about the Canaanites? He ordered the complete destruction of children too.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Dave L View Post

        Nobody has free will. If you do, stop sinning.
        You would have to explain how a predilection to sin means we lack freewill.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Dave L View Post

          What about the Canaanites? He ordered the complete destruction of children too.
          I'm assuming your God also makes leaders molest children, kill their rivals, and other vile acts.

          How does that mesh with an all-good God?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

            You would have to explain how a predilection to sin means we lack freewill.
            Jesus says the lost are slaves to Satan. James says you cannot control your tongue. This also disproves free will.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Dave L View Post

              Jesus says the lost are slaves to Satan. James says you cannot control your tongue. This also disproves free will.
              Hey, if we don't have free will, you have no room to complain in other threads that the mods here are biased against you. After all, they are just following free will.

              Again, the same goes with this entire thread cautioning people about railing against Biden. They also have no choice but to do so. You might as well simply accept it.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Markus River View Post

                Well, he certainly appears to be distant from that which the majority here purport to believe. Whether or not that belief constitutes the truth is, I submit, a matter for another time and place.

                That said, his posts are at least entertaining.
                Truth tends to bring out the worst in people. That's why so many die witnessing for Jesus.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                  Jesus says the lost are slaves to Satan. James says you cannot control your tongue. This also disproves free will.
                  A little common sense would show that James was declaring that you can't - in and of yourself - control your tongue. It's part of James' teaching on becoming mature.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                    Truth tends to bring out the worst in people. That's why so many die witnessing for Jesus.
                    But witnessing does nothing under your worldview. Because freewill does not exist and therefore your God decides what people will believe or not believe. So witnessing is an utterly worthless activity.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                      Hey, if we don't have free will, you have no room to complain in other threads that the mods here are biased against you. After all, they are just following free will.

                      Again, the same goes with this entire thread cautioning people about railing against Biden. They also have no choice but to do so. You might as well simply accept it.
                      God is revealing them for what they are. Also, those who attack me for posting scripture for the needy.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                        God is revealing them for what they are. Also, those who attack me for posting scripture for the needy.
                        But they have no choice in their actions, as they are being mind controlled by god (as are you), you have no reason to complain. They aren't attacking you, they are following God's orders.

                        God wants them to silence you. Perhaps you need to consider what that means.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                          Truth tends to bring out the worst in people. That's why so many die witnessing for Jesus.
                          If free will doesn't exist, it does not bring out the worst in people, as they have no choice in it.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                            Dear atheist friends of Tweb. Please be aware that DaveL is NOT an orthodox Christian and his skewed views of scripture and God do not line up with orthodox Christianity in the slightest.

                            Please do not think that the majority of the believers here think he is even close to the truth.
                            Not an atheist, but I was wondering (not really) whether this poster was serious (I think not) because it is so silly I didn't even think it deserved a response (truly)

                            But now that I see the poster is serious.....lol. For real.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                              Nobody has free will. If you do, stop sinning.
                              Ok. I just stopped. I am not sinning as of right now.
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                                But they have no choice in their actions, as they are being mind controlled by god (as are you), you have no reason to complain. They aren't attacking you, they are following God's orders.

                                God wants them to silence you. Perhaps you need to consider what that means.
                                They choose what they want most. So they are guilty. But God controls their choices through the reasons He sends for them to base them on.

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