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Caution in railing against President Biden and others.

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  • #31
    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

    Oh, I've been on enough forums like this to recognize those who are, let's say, a little more extreme in their beliefs. It's fun to watch them tie themselves up into knots
    It appears he is espousing some odd brand of Calvinism. Like good 'ol Mr. Slick.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Dave L View Post

      God chooses the President and determines his actions. To rail against President Biden is to rail against God's control over him.
      I bet you voted for him.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dave L View Post
        Nobody has free will. If you do, stop sinning.
        And there you have it folks.... they guy who complains of being falsely accused of hyper-Calvinism....

        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dave L View Post

          ALL historic Protestants believed as I do. The Lutherans are close to what I believe. Don't blurt anything you cannot prove.
          Did God send you here to be a contentious old goat and sew discord among the people?
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            Did God send you here to be a contentious old goat and sew discord among the people?
            The thread defeats itself. After all, if I have no free will, it means God WANTS me to rail against Biden.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

              The thread defeats itself. After all, if I have no free will, it means God WANTS me to rail against Biden.
              Yeah, while I'm just a poor slob with free will and a sin nature. I'd confess to being chief of sinners, but that title is already taken by another guy who struggled with sin.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                ALL historic Protestants believed as I do. The Lutherans are close to what I believe. Don't blurt anything you cannot prove.
                Lol as a former Lutheran (WELS) that's not a particularly accurate statement.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                  You just told me I don't have free will, therefore your God has forced me to be an atheist. According to you, your God has determined my actions, which led me to become an atheist after decades being a Christian
                  Cat got your tongue, Dave L ?

                  If I don't have free will and God determines our actions, as you have posited, then I am an atheist because your deity wants me to be.

                  You didn't think this through, did you?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                    Cat got your tongue, Dave L ?

                    If I don't have free will and God determines our actions, as you have posited, then I am an atheist because your deity wants me to be.

                    You didn't think this through, did you?
                    He also chooses the reprobate (unbelievers) whom He sends to Hell. See Romans 5.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                      He also chooses the reprobate (unbelievers) whom He sends to Hell. See Romans 5.
                      So, again, under your beliefs I have no choice, and no free will, and was forced by your deity to lose my faith as a Christian I had the first two and a half decades of my life, and become an atheist. So by what cause can he justify sending me to he'll, given that I have no choice but to be an atheist? What sort of monster do you worship?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                        Which means god is indecisive, jumping from one extreme to another. So, it would be your opinion then that God made Hitler start the Holocaust, Stalin do the Gulags, and Pol Pot kill millions?

                        Did God make Rod Blagojevich try to Sell Obama's senate seat?
                        God placed the unbelieving Jews under His wrath when He removed them from Israel (Romans 11). He destroyed nearly all in 70 AD by the Romans. Those who escaped were slaughtered and run out of 114 nations or so before Hitler started in on them. The only reason they exist is because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. Treu Israel accepted Christ and makes up the Church today. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 (KJV 1900)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                          God placed the unbelieving Jews under His wrath when He removed them from Israel (Romans 11). He destroyed nearly all in 70 AD by the Romans. Those who escaped were slaughtered and run out of 114 nations or so before Hitler started in on them. The only reason they exist is because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. Treu Israel accepted Christ and makes up the Church today. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 (KJV 1900)
                          Again, referencing scripture doesn't answer the questions I asked. Try again:

                          So, it would be your opinion then that God made Hitler start the Holocaust, Stalin do the Gulags, and Pol Pot kill millions?

                          Did God make Rod Blagojevich try to Sell Obama's senate seat?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                            God placed the unbelieving Jews under His wrath when He removed them from Israel (Romans 11). He destroyed nearly all in 70 AD by the Romans. Those who escaped were slaughtered and run out of 114 nations or so before Hitler started in on them. The only reason they exist is because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. Treu Israel accepted Christ and makes up the Church today. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 (KJV 1900)
                            But no one has a choice on if they believeth or believeth not, accordingbto what you have told us. They don't exist because of their hatred and rejection of Christ because as you have told us they do not have free will and we're forced to hate and reject Christ by your own deity.

                            You clearly did not think any of this through.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                              Again, referencing scripture doesn't answer the questions I asked. Try again:

                              So, it would be your opinion then that God made Hitler start the Holocaust, Stalin do the Gulags, and Pol Pot kill millions?

                              Did God make Rod Blagojevich try to Sell Obama's senate seat?
                              Yes.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Dave L View Post

                                Yes.
                                Ok, so your all-good God regularly mind-controls leaders to commit genocide.

                                I'm assuming you supported Trump's actions?

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