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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
God chooses the President and determines his actions. To rail against President Biden is to rail against God's control over him.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Dave L View PostNobody has free will. If you do, stop sinning.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
ALL historic Protestants believed as I do. The Lutherans are close to what I believe. Don't blurt anything you cannot prove.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
The thread defeats itself. After all, if I have no free will, it means God WANTS me to rail against Biden.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
You just told me I don't have free will, therefore your God has forced me to be an atheist. According to you, your God has determined my actions, which led me to become an atheist after decades being a Christian
If I don't have free will and God determines our actions, as you have posited, then I am an atheist because your deity wants me to be.
You didn't think this through, did you?
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He also chooses the reprobate (unbelievers) whom He sends to Hell. See Romans 5.
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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
He also chooses the reprobate (unbelievers) whom He sends to Hell. See Romans 5.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Which means god is indecisive, jumping from one extreme to another. So, it would be your opinion then that God made Hitler start the Holocaust, Stalin do the Gulags, and Pol Pot kill millions?
Did God make Rod Blagojevich try to Sell Obama's senate seat?
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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
God placed the unbelieving Jews under His wrath when He removed them from Israel (Romans 11). He destroyed nearly all in 70 AD by the Romans. Those who escaped were slaughtered and run out of 114 nations or so before Hitler started in on them. The only reason they exist is because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. Treu Israel accepted Christ and makes up the Church today. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 (KJV 1900)
So, it would be your opinion then that God made Hitler start the Holocaust, Stalin do the Gulags, and Pol Pot kill millions?
Did God make Rod Blagojevich try to Sell Obama's senate seat?
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Originally posted by Dave L View Post
God placed the unbelieving Jews under His wrath when He removed them from Israel (Romans 11). He destroyed nearly all in 70 AD by the Romans. Those who escaped were slaughtered and run out of 114 nations or so before Hitler started in on them. The only reason they exist is because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. Treu Israel accepted Christ and makes up the Church today. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 (KJV 1900)
You clearly did not think any of this through.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Again, referencing scripture doesn't answer the questions I asked. Try again:
So, it would be your opinion then that God made Hitler start the Holocaust, Stalin do the Gulags, and Pol Pot kill millions?
Did God make Rod Blagojevich try to Sell Obama's senate seat?
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