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The LDS church's most recent stance on Blacks and Priesthood

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  • just Johnna
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    I thought the publication of this essay was lovely. We've been asking for a refutation of the racist folklore for some time, and needed it somewhere that could be cited. This will do real good.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Hey, cut them some slack, it's not easy to keep everything straight when you're making it up as you go along.
    Well, yeah, they weren't very good at checking what prior profits* have said, and with with whom they might be at odds. But it doesn't matter if it meets their currents wants or needs.




    *yeah, I said profit!

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  • KingsGambit
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    Hey, cut them some slack, it's not easy to keep everything straight when you're making it up as you go along.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    It's the "Escape Clause"
    yeah

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yes.

    The "boys will be boys" defense. Mormon prophets are "just like anybody else" and just as subject to the ills of society, except when they say they're not, and they actually speak for God. AND, they have the right, AFTER THE FACT, to say "ok, well.. that part wasn't really from God".
    It's the "Escape Clause"

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by hamster View Post
    Church leaders condemn past racism

    So they are condemning God who spake racism through the LDS prophets

    Or the prophets were lying about speaking God's word

    Is there any other option?
    Yes.

    The "boys will be boys" defense. Mormon prophets are "just like anybody else" and just as subject to the ills of society, except when they say they're not, and they actually speak for God. AND, they have the right, AFTER THE FACT, to say "ok, well.. that part wasn't really from God".

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  • hamster
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    Church leaders condemn past racism

    So they are condemning God who spake racism through the LDS prophets

    Or the prophets were lying about speaking God's word

    Is there any other option?

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  • One Bad Pig
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    Originally posted by seven7up View Post
    The mocking IS lame.
    Um, no. Mocking can be brilliant. Your attempt is lame. And you're mocking scripture we both theoretically believe in, which is just dumb.

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  • Sparko
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    so since the Christian denominations (which are part of the church of Satan) allowed bigotry, that means it was OK for the LDS to do the same? I thought the LDS church was led by a prophet who heard and talked directly to God? That is quite a different situation than a regular Christian denomination who doesn't believe that God has conversations regularly with their leaders and the leaders are not prophets. We stumble by reading and interpreting God's words in the bible and sometimes get it wrong. The LDS church has a living prophet who is led directly by God. The LDS church has no excuse for acting like any ordinary Christian denomination.

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  • tabibito
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    Start with reading comprehension. What is the LDS explanation of the matter?

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by seven7up View Post
    The mocking IS lame.

    It looks like you DO get it after all.

    Just to make it interesting. Why don't you go through my list and try to explain these difficult passages of scripture, then I will continue mocking you throughout. Let's see how you like that.

    -7up
    You sound like a spoiled little brat who has been proven wrong, and is just pitching a hissy.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by seven7up View Post
    I am only playing the same game that you have been playing all along.-7up
    No, you're here to defend Joseph Smith at all costs, because that's where your loyalty lies.

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  • seven7up
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    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    Zero score for reading comprehension, Zero score for failure to understand what marriage is in terms of the Genesis record.
    Well then. Enlighten me Tabibito.

    -7up

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  • tabibito
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    God doesn't like this guy named Er, so then he kills him. Onan's dad orders Onan to have unmarried sex with Er's wife. She had two children with Er already, but maybe wanted another one. Onan spills his seed, so then God kills him, too. (Genesis 38:1-10) Classic!
    Zero score for reading comprehension, Zero score for failure to understand what marriage is in terms of the Genesis record.

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  • seven7up
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    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    IOW, you don't have any answers, so you'll make a lame attempt at mocking the Old Testament? I don't get it.

    The mocking IS lame.

    It looks like you DO get it after all.

    Just to make it interesting. Why don't you go through my list and try to explain these difficult passages of scripture, then I will continue mocking you throughout. Let's see how you like that.

    -7up

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