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The LDS church's most recent stance on Blacks and Priesthood

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  • #31
    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    Zero score for reading comprehension, Zero score for failure to understand what marriage is in terms of the Genesis record.
    Well then. Enlighten me Tabibito.

    -7up

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    • #32
      Originally posted by seven7up View Post
      I am only playing the same game that you have been playing all along.-7up
      No, you're here to defend Joseph Smith at all costs, because that's where your loyalty lies.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by seven7up View Post
        The mocking IS lame.

        It looks like you DO get it after all.

        Just to make it interesting. Why don't you go through my list and try to explain these difficult passages of scripture, then I will continue mocking you throughout. Let's see how you like that.

        -7up
        You sound like a spoiled little brat who has been proven wrong, and is just pitching a hissy.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #34
          Start with reading comprehension. What is the LDS explanation of the matter?
          1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
          Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
          .
          If Palm Sunday really was a Sunday, Christ was crucified on a Thursday (which could be adduced from the gospels anyway).

          "The synoptic gospels claim that Jesus was crucified on the 15th day of Nisan and buried on the 14th day of Nisan:" Majority Consensus

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          • #35
            so since the Christian denominations (which are part of the church of Satan) allowed bigotry, that means it was OK for the LDS to do the same? I thought the LDS church was led by a prophet who heard and talked directly to God? That is quite a different situation than a regular Christian denomination who doesn't believe that God has conversations regularly with their leaders and the leaders are not prophets. We stumble by reading and interpreting God's words in the bible and sometimes get it wrong. The LDS church has a living prophet who is led directly by God. The LDS church has no excuse for acting like any ordinary Christian denomination.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by seven7up View Post
              The mocking IS lame.
              Um, no. Mocking can be brilliant. Your attempt is lame. And you're mocking scripture we both theoretically believe in, which is just dumb.
              Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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              I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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              • #37
                Church leaders condemn past racism

                So they are condemning God who spake racism through the LDS prophets

                Or the prophets were lying about speaking God's word

                Is there any other option?
                "Some people feel guilty about their anxieties and regard them as a defect of faith but they are afflictions, not sins. Like all afflictions, they are, if we can so take them, our share in the passion of Christ." - That Guy Everyone Quotes

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by hamster View Post
                  Church leaders condemn past racism

                  So they are condemning God who spake racism through the LDS prophets

                  Or the prophets were lying about speaking God's word

                  Is there any other option?
                  Yes.

                  The "boys will be boys" defense. Mormon prophets are "just like anybody else" and just as subject to the ills of society, except when they say they're not, and they actually speak for God. AND, they have the right, AFTER THE FACT, to say "ok, well.. that part wasn't really from God".
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Yes.

                    The "boys will be boys" defense. Mormon prophets are "just like anybody else" and just as subject to the ills of society, except when they say they're not, and they actually speak for God. AND, they have the right, AFTER THE FACT, to say "ok, well.. that part wasn't really from God".
                    It's the "Escape Clause"
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      It's the "Escape Clause"
                      yeah
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Hey, cut them some slack, it's not easy to keep everything straight when you're making it up as you go along.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          Hey, cut them some slack, it's not easy to keep everything straight when you're making it up as you go along.
                          Well, yeah, they weren't very good at checking what prior profits* have said, and with with whom they might be at odds. But it doesn't matter if it meets their currents wants or needs.




                          *yeah, I said profit!
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #43
                            I thought the publication of this essay was lovely. We've been asking for a refutation of the racist folklore for some time, and needed it somewhere that could be cited. This will do real good.

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