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This forum is a debate area to discuss issues pertaining to the LDS - Mormons. This forum is generally for theists only, and is generaly not the area for debate between atheists and theists. Non-theists may not post here without first obtaining permission from the moderator of this forum. Granting of such permission is subject to Moderator discretion - and may be revoked if the Moderator feels that the poster is not keeping with the spirit of the World Religions Department.
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Originally posted by Kind Debater View PostIs it the case that you aren't bothered by insults, etc.
Now, if it was somebody I truly RESPECTED that launched insults, yeah, that would hurt. But when it's somebody who is obviously angry and frustrated -- not so much.
and it doesn't make sense to you when other people seem to be overly sensitive to them? (I mean that in a "getting to know you better" sense.)
We have had a FEW Mormons who have operated in that manner -- Brother Aardvark comes to mind -- he never blew up, got angry, acted out -- he just responded with what he believed and stood firm.
7up can't do that, and I believe it's because he doesn't - deep inside - really believe what he's saying.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post- it was NOT a denigration of "motherhood", but of the goofy concept that there's a "Heavenly Mother" who produces millions (billions? trillions?) of "spirit babies", and the logical conclusions for which that calls.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHERE is the exact quote, which you understandably failed to provide:
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They are too busy being barefoot and pregnant. After all who is going to create new spirit babies?
And she has to keep the house clean, make dinner for God and all his angels, take the spirit babies to soccer. She is way too busy to go around working at the office as a God. That's a man's job.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt was OBVIOUSLY a reference to the goofy notion of "Heavenly Mother" manufactured by Joseph Smith ...
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, which is it --- are you dishonest or just plain ignorant?
-7up
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In a debate about marriage in heaven, in TWEB B.C., where Other Cheek commented that there were some things that were too sacred to talk about (my best recollection), I commented there was nothing more sacred than the Cross, which we talk about all the time.
In fact, we're COMMANDED to talk about it.
How did the concept of sacredness become the same as secretive?Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by seven7up View PostYour "conclusions" are based on all kinds of baseless assumptions.
The fact that it was a denigration of actual mothers in order to denigrate the LDS idea of a Heavenly Mother does not help your case much.
And it was obvious that "goofy notions" about actual mothers were being used as a spring board to attack the idea of a Heavenly Mother. It was a pathetic ploy by the regular posters of this forum.
-7up[/QUOTE]1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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but that won't prevent others from
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Originally posted by seven7up View PostYour "conclusions" are based on all kinds of baseless assumptions.
The fact that it was a denigration of actual mothers in order to denigrate the LDS idea of a Heavenly Mother does not help your case much.
And it was obvious that "goofy notions" about actual mothers were being used as a spring board to attack the idea of a Heavenly Mother.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostAt least he has conclusions. All you have is...
Do you have proof that Sparko's comment was denigrating?
I notice how you just call her an "idea", and then claim that WE denigrate her. She's not even worthy of being called "doctrine" in your religion.
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Originally posted by seven7up View PostYour "conclusions" are based on all kinds of baseless assumptions.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seven7up View PostIt is up to you to decide, smart guy.
-7upThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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