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  • #46
    Originally posted by seven7up View Post
    Who will go to heaven? Who will go to hell?

    God will judge.
    Yeah, that brings up another nutty teaching of your Church:

    " . . . no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).

    Good Ol' Brigham Young!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by seven7up View Post
      This goes back to our old discussion, about how Jesus specifically taught us to pray, "Pray to the Father, in my name".

      -7up
      Because Jesus knew there was no "Heavenly Mother". NOWHERE is that taught in the Bible.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Yeah, I just got back from Israel, where I actually traveled WITH Orthodox Jews and we actually got along just great!
        So, you did not mock what they held sacred? How unlike you.

        You must have faked it. You just paid them lip service, just like the god you pretend to serve.

        Did you tell them what you REALLY believe? That they are all going to Hell for eternity for rejecting the Savior?

        -7up

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Yeah, that brings up another nutty teaching of your Church:

          " . . . no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).

          Good Ol' Brigham Young!
          That just brings up another out of context quote that proves how much of a liar you are. Figures since you are serving the father of lies. Especially, since I already debunked it on this forum.

          -7up

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          • #50
            Originally posted by seven7up View Post
            So, you did not mock what they held sacred? How unlike you.
            I oppose false teachings, and false prophets. Not ancient history and real teachings of the Bible.

            You must have faked it. You just paid them lip service, just like the god you pretend to serve.
            And, once again, lacking anything of substance, you go to personal attacks. Quite childish.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by seven7up View Post
              That just brings up another out of context quote that proves how much of a liar you are. Figures since you are serving the father of lies. Especially, since I already debunked it on this forum.

              -7up
              I think you're competing for "nuttiest Mormon we've ever had on Tweb". And really exposing all those "Mormons are wonderful kind loving people" stereotypes.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Kind Debater View Post
                I foresee a thread on hell in the future, only I don't have time for it right now.



                Arguably there are cases where sin is big enough that its presence in a person's life would indicate that person doesn't truly regard God as their God, e.g. someone continuing in adultery with an "I don't care if it's wrong, it makes me happy" attitude. But what is it about rejecting LDS-specific teachings that constitutes a big enough sin to merit hell, despite trusting in Jesus? I guess I'm talking about essential vs. non-essential doctrine here. E.g. my pastor said recently that someone can disbelieve that the stories in the OT are literally true yet still be saved -- he explained why disbelieving them would be a bad idea and have negative ramifications, but he didn't regard that as something that would throw one's salvation into question. What LDS doctrines are so essential that denying them means one isn't saved?

                BTW, I sent you a PM. Just checking if you saw it since I think email/popup notifications are off by default.

                I will check my PM soon.

                I respect you KD. You are the only one on this forum who even attempts to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

                The others here are all just pretenders.

                As for your question, I cannot say what are "essential doctrines" and what are not. I would simply say that if the Holy Spirit has testified to an individual that the Restored church is truth, then it is a sin to reject the truth that was revealed by the Holy Spirit.

                -7up

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  And, once again, lacking anything of substance, you go to personal attacks. Quite childish.
                  Pointing out that you do not live the teachings of Christ, (obviously mocking the sacred beliefs of others is an example), is not a personal attack.

                  You and the others on this thread claim to follow Jesus, but you clearly do not.

                  -7up

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                  • #54
                    7up: So, you did not mock what they (Orthodox Jews) held sacred? How unlike you.

                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I oppose false teachings, and false prophets. ...

                    They reject Jesus as Lord and Savior. Isn't that a false teaching?

                    -7up

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by seven7up View Post
                      7up: So, you did not mock what they (Orthodox Jews) held sacred?
                      Nope. They do subscribe to a totally made up book and follow a false prophet. And they answer to God, not me.

                      How unlike you.
                      Are you 12?

                      They reject Jesus as Lord and Savior. Isn't that a false teaching?

                      -7up
                      God has a plan for them.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by seven7up View Post
                        Pointing out that you do not live the teachings of Christ, (obviously mocking the sacred beliefs of others is an example), is not a personal attack.

                        You and the others on this thread claim to follow Jesus, but you clearly do not.

                        -7up
                        WAAAANNNNNNnnnnnnhhhhhhhh, Seven is MOCKING Me!!!!!! WAAAAaaanannnnhhhhhhh




                        Seriously, Seven, I see nothing wrong with standing up to your false prophet and your phony BoM.... and just because you think yours is a "sacred belief" does not make Smith any less a con man, or make the BoM "real".

                        I follow Jesus -- just not the one your false prophet invented.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by seven7up View Post
                          Pointing out that you do not live the teachings of Christ, (obviously mocking the sacred beliefs of others is an example), is not a personal attack.
                          Would you mind showing me where the Bible prohibits me from opposing the false teachings of a cult?

                          Thanks
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by seven7up View Post
                            I will check my PM soon.

                            I respect you KD. You are the only one on this forum who even attempts to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.
                            Then, perhaps you could stop ignoring KD's thread here!
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by seven7up View Post
                              I will check my PM soon.
                              So I sent 7up a PM, which he failed to notice due to the screwiness of the notification system. Realizing this, I posted about it on this thread, and then when he didn't read that post (until yesterday), I posted about it on the ex nihilo thread, and then he finally read it. And then he reads the post on this thread, and... (7up, next time I feel the need to inform you that your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries, I'll just do it in a post. )

                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Then, perhaps you could stop ignoring KD's thread here!
                              And now CP has me confused with Digital Inkling.

                              Gosh, a gal could start to feel almost invisible, you know...

                              (BTW, I'm not mad at all at either of you, I just thought it was funny to see two communication failures on the same page. )
                              Last edited by Kind Debater; 07-08-2014, 09:59 AM.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Then, perhaps you could stop ignoring KD's thread here!
                                Since CP brought it up...it would be nice, 7up, if you responded to this post.

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