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This forum is a debate area to discuss issues pertaining to the LDS - Mormons. This forum is generally for theists only, and is generaly not the area for debate between atheists and theists. Non-theists may not post here without first obtaining permission from the moderator of this forum. Granting of such permission is subject to Moderator discretion - and may be revoked if the Moderator feels that the poster is not keeping with the spirit of the World Religions Department.
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So, after Vacation Bible School last night, my ministry coordinator told me, "Oh, by the way, there were a couple of young men shooting hoops on our lot near the garage, and I was taking some trash to the dumpster. I think I must have scared them, and it looked like they thought I was going to yell at them, but I told them it's perfectly OK for them to play hoops there!" From her description, one of them sounded like Josh. A quick review of the security camera video footage showed it was!
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostOk. Though it must be said that such churches tend to have massive turnover, too. People tend not to stay.
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One of my friends was conversing with some people from her former faith (never mind which) and a doctrine they held which was in clear contradiction to scripture came up. She finally pointed to the Bible in clear view on their table and said, "Read it! And see for yourselves!"
Point is, no matter if it's a catechism, creed, statement of faith, policy, etc, etc. one must know their Bible so as to not be deceived!
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI've seen the Roman Road, the Four Spiritual Laws, Evangelism Explosion - all kinds of "tools"...
the one 'component' that should be common to all is the power of the Holy Spirit. And as there are more and more people who either don't believe the Bible, or don't trust it like we do, I'm always prepared to go with my personal testimony or whatever the Spirit leads...
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostNot trying to imply that you did - it's just rather the preferred method in Evangelical circles, in my experience (except when working with Jews, when the "Jerusalem Road" is preferred).
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostNope. I mean that the wishy-washy churches with massive congregations that are only there to hear pap would be failing if the people in the congregations were actually into the word.
Meant what I said.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostUm,
Don't you mean that if these folk were into the word, then these churches would be growing instead of failing?
Meant what I said.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostUm,
Don't you mean that if these folk were into the word, then these churches would be growing instead of failing?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think she means like the Joel Osteen type churches --- if "the people" were really "in the Word", Joel Osteen wouldn't be able to draw them with his ear tickling.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNeither do I, and I never said that I did.
Which is why I always think the most important aspect of evangelism is the Holy Spirit's involvement.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostIn which case, the Eastern church would seem to note that "come and see" doesn't cut it for the long haul? Catechising would involve a certain amount of word, chapter, and verse would it not?
Though I'm less excited about word, chapter, and verse than about knowing what the Bible has to say - knowing WCV is sort of useful in establishing some sort of credibility.
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