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  • #46
    Though I'm less excited about word, chapter, and verse than about knowing what the Bible has to say - knowing WCV is sort of useful in establishing some sort of credibility.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      Um,
      Don't you mean that if these folk were into the word, then these churches would be growing instead of failing?
      Nope. I mean that the wishy-washy churches with massive congregations that are only there to hear pap would be failing if the people in the congregations were actually into the word.

      Meant what I said.


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      • #48
        Originally posted by mossrose View Post
        Nope. I mean that the wishy-washy churches with massive congregations that are only there to hear pap would be failing if the people in the congregations were actually into the word.

        Meant what I said.
        Ok. Though it must be said that such churches tend to have massive turnover, too. People tend not to stay.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by tabibito View Post
          Though I'm less excited about word, chapter, and verse than about knowing what the Bible has to say - knowing WCV is sort of useful in establishing some sort of credibility.

          Only if the Bible is viewed as some sort of authority in the first place, champ. Perhaps you missed that part.
          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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          • #50
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            Not trying to imply that you did - it's just rather the preferred method in Evangelical circles, in my experience (except when working with Jews, when the "Jerusalem Road" is preferred).
            I've seen the Roman Road, the Four Spiritual Laws, Evangelism Explosion - all kinds of "tools"... the one 'component' that should be common to all is the power of the Holy Spirit. And as there are more and more people who either don't believe the Bible, or don't trust it like we do, I'm always prepared to go with my personal testimony or whatever the Spirit leads...
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              I've seen the Roman Road, the Four Spiritual Laws, Evangelism Explosion - all kinds of "tools"...
              Seen, yes. The Roman Road is the one I've seen the most, is all. I'm familiar with the Four Spiritual Laws from my fundamentalist days. I've heard of EE, but have no idea what it entails.
              the one 'component' that should be common to all is the power of the Holy Spirit. And as there are more and more people who either don't believe the Bible, or don't trust it like we do, I'm always prepared to go with my personal testimony or whatever the Spirit leads...
              I believe I've stated my agreement with that already.
              Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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              • #52
                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                I believe I've stated my agreement with that already.
                You're only allowed to agree once per thread per day, perhaps?
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                • #53
                  One of my friends was conversing with some people from her former faith (never mind which) and a doctrine they held which was in clear contradiction to scripture came up. She finally pointed to the Bible in clear view on their table and said, "Read it! And see for yourselves!"

                  Point is, no matter if it's a catechism, creed, statement of faith, policy, etc, etc. one must know their Bible so as to not be deceived!
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    Ok. Though it must be said that such churches tend to have massive turnover, too. People tend not to stay.
                    And, likely, many of those go on to another church just like the one they left. Of course, I'm conjecturing here and have no facts.


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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                      And, likely, many of those go on to another church just like the one they left. Of course, I'm conjecturing here and have no facts.
                      They probably go broke and go find a "cheaper" church.

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                      • #56
                        So, after Vacation Bible School last night, my ministry coordinator told me, "Oh, by the way, there were a couple of young men shooting hoops on our lot near the garage, and I was taking some trash to the dumpster. I think I must have scared them, and it looked like they thought I was going to yell at them, but I told them it's perfectly OK for them to play hoops there!" From her description, one of them sounded like Josh. A quick review of the security camera video footage showed it was!
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