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LDS Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents

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  • #16
    Hey guys, it's been quite a while since I've been here. It's nice to see that TWEB is still running. I found this article a little while back that's a very good commentary on the topic of this thread.

    https://beggarsbread.org/2019/04/08/...elson-a-break/

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Brown Cat View Post
      Hey guys, it's been quite a while since I've been here. It's nice to see that TWEB is still running. I found this article a little while back that's a very good commentary on the topic of this thread.

      https://beggarsbread.org/2019/04/08/...elson-a-break/
      Welcome back, BC!!!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Thanks, CP. It's good to see you again

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Brown Cat View Post
          Thanks, CP. It's good to see you again
          Wow, THIS from the article you posted...

          God clearly commanded the original policy that denied baptism for children of LBGTQ parents. But as we all know, even the man upstairs makes mistakes sometimes. All of us, including God, are all on a path to greater knowledge, perfection, and glory. When God repents, the prophet has a sacred duty to take the fall for him.


          This pretty much defines the Mormon "God" -- a fallible being who makes mistakes, and hopes to learn from them.

          We saw that every time Joseph Smith came up with a "thus saith the Lord", then had to backtrack and "ok, THIS is 'what saith the Lord' now - forget that earlier proclaimation". (like the whole polygamy scam)
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Wow, THIS from the article you posted...

            God clearly commanded the original policy that denied baptism for children of LBGTQ parents. But as we all know, even the man upstairs makes mistakes sometimes. All of us, including God, are all on a path to greater knowledge, perfection, and glory. When God repents, the prophet has a sacred duty to take the fall for him.


            This pretty much defines the Mormon "God" -- a fallible being who makes mistakes, and hopes to learn from them.

            We saw that every time Joseph Smith came up with a "thus saith the Lord", then had to backtrack and "ok, THIS is 'what saith the Lord' now - forget that earlier proclaimation". (like the whole polygamy scam)
            That's what happens when you base beliefs on lies. You have to keep making up new stuff, and then it gets hard to remember what you said before.

            It's the height of blasphemy to say that God makes mistakes. But better the fault be with Him than with man, of course.


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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Wow, THIS from the article you posted...

              God clearly commanded the original policy that denied baptism for children of LBGTQ parents. But as we all know, even the man upstairs makes mistakes sometimes. All of us, including God, are all on a path to greater knowledge, perfection, and glory. When God repents, the prophet has a sacred duty to take the fall for him.


              This pretty much defines the Mormon "God" -- a fallible being who makes mistakes, and hopes to learn from them.

              We saw that every time Joseph Smith came up with a "thus saith the Lord", then had to backtrack and "ok, THIS is 'what saith the Lord' now - forget that earlier proclaimation". (like the whole polygamy scam)
              And, for the record, I realize this [the quoted part in the box] was Michael Flournoy's somewhat facetious characterization of the Mormon position, but I thought it was pretty much spot on!

              (Let it be known that Flournoy was a Mormon who came to know the REAL Jesus in 2016)
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Why should the children of such parents be denied baptism? Punish the children?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by YHWH RULES View Post
                  Why should the children of such parents be denied baptism? Punish the children?
                  That's Mormonism for you...
                  That's what
                  - She

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                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    Wow, THIS from the article you posted...

                    God clearly commanded the original policy that denied baptism for children of LBGTQ parents. But as we all know, even the man upstairs makes mistakes sometimes. All of us, including God, are all on a path to greater knowledge, perfection, and glory. When God repents, the prophet has a sacred duty to take the fall for him.


                    This pretty much defines the Mormon "God" -- a fallible being who makes mistakes, and hopes to learn from them.

                    We saw that every time Joseph Smith came up with a "thus saith the Lord", then had to backtrack and "ok, THIS is 'what saith the Lord' now - forget that earlier proclaimation". (like the whole polygamy scam)
                    I have this book I bought recently by Isaiah Bennet called "Inside Mormonism" and in it he levels the charge that the Mormon doctrines on God change with politics. All I can say is that the charge is blatantly correct
                    A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
                    George Bernard Shaw

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Catholicity View Post

                      I have this book I bought recently by Isaiah Bennet called "Inside Mormonism" and in it he levels the charge that the Mormon doctrines on God change with politics. All I can say is that the charge is blatantly correct
                      Agreed 100%. But it's always because of a divine revelation from God. Like Smith's 'revelation' that he can have sex with the wives of other men - until Emma had enough.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        Agreed 100%. But it's always because of a divine revelation from God. Like Smith's 'revelation' that he can have sex with the wives of other men - until Emma had enough.
                        I'm always suspicious of a religion where God repeatedly changes His mind to accommodate the current whims of His supposed prophet. Islam has the same issue.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          I'm always suspicious of a religion where God repeatedly changes His mind to accommodate the current whims of His supposed prophet. Islam has the same issue.
                          Absolutely - and Joseph Smith was the MASTER of "divine revelations from God" that catered to his own needs and desires and lusts.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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