Christ in Ancient Americas - A Compelling Evidence of the BOM's Authenticity

[Bill the Cat]

Yup. Just present what you think is your strongest piece of evidence (or two). We can go from there.

Methinks sir Black Knight is going to shuffle off somewhere else to claim he is invincible...

[ke7ejx]

They are STILL processing the tremendous number of remains and doing DNA......

oh, wait....

[Cow Poke]

I'm kinda hoping he brings up the massive battle on Hill Cumorah.

They are STILL processing the tremendous number of remains and doing DNA......

oh, wait....

[rogue06]

Maybe we can get to the burning in the bosom.

Or the non-existent gold plates.
Or the kinderhook scandal.
Or the Bank fraud.

If "Christ in ancient Americas" is his best defense of Mormonism.....

I'm kinda hoping he brings up the massive battle on Hill Cumorah.

[Cow Poke]

Yup. Just present what you think is your strongest piece of evidence (or two). We can go from there.

Maybe we can get to the burning in the bosom.

Or the non-existent gold plates.
Or the kinderhook scandal.
Or the Bank fraud.

If "Christ in ancient Americas" is his best defense of Mormonism.....

[rogue06]

We are just against elephant hurls and blogging. This is a discussion site and the only way to have a real debate is to keep the posts concise and short. People can always move on to more points later.

Yup. Just present what you think is your strongest piece of evidence (or two). We can go from there.

[Cow Poke]

We are just against elephant hurls and blogging. This is a discussion site and the only way to have a real debate is to keep the posts concise and short. People can always move on to more points later.

But, to paraphrase an old expression, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with horsie poo". And lots of it!

[tabibito]

There are two separate arguments contained in this faulty statement. First, is the presentist viewpoint, and the second is the conclusion of engaging in human sacrifices. Neither account provides any information regarding human sacrifices. That is an inference the respondent provides within the context of comparing the two accounts. Therefore, there is no need to address this. What will be addressed is the first part of the response to determine whether or not the comparison of the two accounts are reflective of the same event and person of that event.

In Pedro de Cieza de Leon's account, we read:

Things being in this state, the sun, shining very brightly, came forth from the island of Titicaca, in the great lake of the Collao, at which every one rejoiced

Having read the original native American story (if that is what it was), I can state quite confidently that Christ was not crucified during Noah's time - a necessary condition for the story in the book of Mormon to have a connection with the native American story (if that is what it was).

[Sparko]

We are just against elephant hurls and blogging. This is a discussion site and the only way to have a real debate is to keep the posts concise and short. People can always move on to more points later.

[Cow Poke]

Out of curiousity I tried using a word count tool to check how many words/characters I've used against his second attempt, and I've only used about 1824 words; 10,685 characters, in my rebuttals of both parts 1 & 2, combined.

I think the only time we are concerned about the word count is when somebody gets nearly obscenely verbose, and does so over multiple posts, and is not really engaging in debate in good faith.

You've done an excellent job rebutting him, but he just blogs on. He needs to do that on his own dime.

[Dante]

Out of curiousity I tried using a word count tool to check how many words/characters I've used against his second attempt, and I've only used about 1824 words; 10,685 characters, in my rebuttals of both parts 1 & 2, combined.

[Sparko]

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[Mountain Man]

This Gish gallop is so chock full of blatant errors that even the most cursory of examinations would expose it is difficult to even know where to start.

ETA: I see others have already noticed the similarities to the notorious tactic used by the late Duane Gish. Then again it is pretty obvious.

His voluminous arguments are obviously intended to obscure and confuse rather than enlighten. Compare it to Dante's efficient clarity.

[Dante]

Fortunately I've enough patience to separate the wheat from the chaff, and that is a lot of chaff.

[rogue06]

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This Gish gallop is so chock full of blatant errors that even the most cursory of examinations would expose it is difficult to even know where to start.

ETA: I see others have already noticed the similarities to the notorious tactic used by the late Duane Gish. Then again it is pretty obvious.